john_morris_uk
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About 320 whys John......
We paid about £550 for our Raymarine one (less than a month ago). Are the opposition really selling class B for £230 if that's what you're suggesting?
Which Ais Transponder/Transceiver
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We paid about £550 for our Raymarine one (less than a month ago). Are the opposition really selling class B for £230 if that's what you're suggesting?
FullCircle
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330.....
flyingscampi
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Please let us know how you get on. I am also planning on using a XB-8000 as the core of a new network as it combines a AIS transponder, GPS receiver and a NMEA 2000/NMEA 0183/WiFi/USB multiplexer into one box which makes it pretty good value and removes a lot of wiring and other clutter.
john_morris_uk
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That's a good price for a Class B transponder.
DipperToo
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Fitted the McMurdo M10 transponder last year and that came complete with an external GPS sensor. The McMurdo also has dual NMEA ports which are configurable with built-in multiplexer which potentially saves money as well. BTW - this unit is the same as the Camino 108 (Both sold by JG Tech).
Very happy with this unit. I have it running a C80 Classic (hence the need for a multiplexor to merge the fast heading data onto the AIS data!)
Very happy with this unit. I have it running a C80 Classic (hence the need for a multiplexor to merge the fast heading data onto the AIS data!)
RichardS
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My XB8000 has been faultless. My earlier post showing its standard 120 mile daytime reception range. Much longer at night but that's not really important.
I wired the boat systems into it using NMEA and the XB now provides the GPS data for the chartplotter as well as a the AIS data. The VM app is an excellent AIS display and shows clearly where both you and the target boat will be in relation to each other at the point of closest approach. The Raymarine display does not to this very well. I also use OpenCPN on the tablet in the cockpit if I want AIS superimposed on a chart when the boat I am watching is behind an island.
The VM app also has an excellent anchor watch built in.
I also broadcast all the Raymarine data over the WiFi network so I can see anything from anywhere on the boat. Not so useful on a small boat as it's all just a few steps away in the cockpit anyway.
I'm not sure what you mean by USB multiplexer. It doesn't have an NMEA multiplexer built in unfortunately so I have a separate Digital Yacht one. If you mean it transmits all the WiFi data over USB then that is correct although I've never found a use for it.
Richard
john_morris_uk
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I thought that there was a legal requirement (even for Class B) to have a separate and independent GPS?
pvb
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It has to have its own GPS, but there's nothing to prevent that GPS data also being shared with other equipment. However, the GPS data from many transponders isn't recognised by other equipment for various reasons (and indeed there may still be a problem with the XB8000 output on some makes of plotter).
FullCircle
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I intend to use the AIS GPS through the N2K backbone as a primary, and also see if it picks up OK on the tablet with OpenCPN.
It's not critical it works as I have 4 potential sources on the network in 3 different systems! SeatalkNG, N2K and 0183.
Rivers & creeks
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Another vote for the Matsutec.
flyingscampi
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Thanks for sharing your experiences with the XB-8000.
By "NMEA 2000/NMEA 0183/WiFi/USB multiplexer" I meant that hopefully I won't need a separate multiplexer to get GPS info on my iCOM DSC VHF (via NMEA 0183), and GPS & AIS info on my Windows / Android devices (via WiFi & USB). The rest of my system is NMEA 2000 which should be foolproof. I mean to check with the manufacturer before purchase anyway.
knuterikt
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I think the requirement is for the GPS antenna / receiver to be part of the AIS system.
But that does not prevent it from sharing data with other systems.
RichardS
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I see. It sounds like your VHF is like mine and will only accept GPS info using NMEA0183 at 4800. Provided that you don't want to transmit any AIS data over NMEA0183 you can set the XB8000 to 4800 and, as you say, you won't need a multiplexer. I needed the multiplexer because my old Raymarine system will not accept NMEA2000 so I had to set the XB8000 to 38400 to get the AIS data into it over NMEA0183 and that ruled out using the same output for the VHF.
As regards wifi and USB, that just seems to work with whatever data you wish to transmit without any worries about data speeds, although I haven't spent much time using USB as my XB8000 and its GPS and the multiplexer and the VM splitter are all hidden behind the control panel and I didn't want any cables poking through.
Richard
Saguday
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No-one really mentioned Digital Yacht - how does the XB-8000 stack up against a DY AIT3000 fr'instance?
I've been dithering for years about a Class B AIS but haven't felt compelled to buy since we've hardly been on the water. That's about to change though...
I've been dithering for years about a Class B AIS but haven't felt compelled to buy since we've hardly been on the water. That's about to change though...
RichardS
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The AIT3000 looks very good as the splitter is included. It also has two 0183 ports so you can presumably run one fast and one slow so don't need a multiplexer if you have older or non-2000 equipment. I don't know what it's like technically but if you need the muxer and can get it for <£150 more than the XB then I'd definitely consider it.
Richard
flyingscampi
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The screen on Vesper's website showing the baud rate setting on NMEA 0183 and the term 'NMEA 2000 <> NMEA 0183 gateway' is what convinced me that the XB-8000 would negate the requirement for a separate multiplexer.
I currently have a Garmin GPS 152 with an external GPS antenna that feeds the position to the VHF and I plan on moving the antenna inside the boat and keeping it as an isolated GPS backup.
DJE
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The Em-Trak B100 has two bi-directional NMEA 0183 ports. One for 4800 baud and one for 38400 baud (but I believe the baud rates are adjustable). Anything received on one port is re-transmitted on the other.
James Marinero
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OMG, what happened to sailing? 
