What would you choose and where would you stick it?

[MapisM]

Last year. Well covered in threads on the Liveaboard forum. ICC required or recognised national qualification.

Whoops, sorry, I obviously missed them.
I guess they recognised IT and DE licenses, otherwise they would have lost 80% of their business...
I've yet to meet any boater from these Countries who bothered to apply for an ICC.

 

[Tranona]

Whoops, sorry, I obviously missed them.
I guess they recognised IT and DE licenses, otherwise they would have lost 80% of their business...
I've yet to meet any boater from these Countries who bothered to apply for an ICC.

From memory, the website lists all the national licences accepted plus of course the ICC which you can get in UK without taking any other formal qualification. You can imagine an official working only to the list making life hell for somebody who has a qualification that is not included. Seem to remember the original list excluded Canadian qualifications.

 

[25931]

Enough said then. You can take your advice on conflict of laws from someone who works for the RYA, if you wish

I received the same answer from the MCA. Who would you accept as an authority ? Perhaps the question is hypothetical for those who don't venture out of British waters.

 

[MapisM]

Who would you accept as an authority ?

LOL, you obviously missed some contributions from jfm on VAT and many other legal issues...
He's pretty much an authority himself, on these matters!

Just for the records, not later than this morning I learnt that also Switzerland is pretty strict with foreign boaters visiting its territories!
I know, it sounds like a joke but it isn't.
Anyone who wants to cruise a Swiss lake with his own boat, be it trailered from abroad or arriving from another Country along the same lake, must get a temporary plate to stick to the boat while she's cruising the Swiss waters!
Unless the boat is already registered in its Country of origin, which is rather unlikely for smallish/tralerable lake boats (in Italy for instance the registration is mandatory, but only for boats above 10m LOA).

 

[Adrianwool]

Gracious men (& ladies)!,
An interesting discussion, but we seem to be somewhat removed from the original (simple?) question I posed. However a thank you to all those who had the courtesy to pose a reply.

Regards


Adrian

 

[Tranona]

Gracious men (& ladies)!,
An interesting discussion, but we seem to be somewhat removed from the original (simple?) question I posed. However a thank you to all those who had the courtesy to pose a reply.

Regards


Adrian

A suggestion perhaps? Whether you have a liferaft or dinghy or both or neither is a matter of personal choice. The two are not interchangeable if the objective is saving your life in a foundering situation. There are virtually no recorded examples of a dinghy being effective in this role, but there are also very few recorded examples of typical leisure yachtsmen ever needing a liferaft, and on the rare occasions they have been deployed, of being particularly effective.

Fortunately in the UK such decisions (except for small commercial vessels) are left up to individual boat owners. In other countries they are subject to legislation, and as we know legislation is not necessarily based on evidence of need!

Of the two pieces of equipment, the dinghy is much more useful to most people, although its use is limited if you just marina hop. On the other hand the chances of you ever needing to use a liferaft are so close to zero as to be unmeasurable!

So if you do have to make a choice (and as noted it is highly unlikely the Portuguese authorities will try to force you) get a dinghy.

 

[MapisM]

we seem to be somewhat removed from the original (simple?) question I posed.

Apologies, you're right.
Simple question, simple answer: get neither, if as I understood from your OP you're only concerned about Portuguese maritime coppers.