What to do with a boat after marriage breakdown?

[The Cleaner]

Hi
I'm new to this forum. I need some advise on selling our boat that is in Italy at the moment.

My husband had a dream that he wanted to sail the med and become a full-time liver board but unfortunately this life wasn't for him. We sold our business, rented our house, emptied our clutter and went to live the dream on our boat, that was in December 2013.(we didn't even get out of the marina)

We had sailed for about three seasons in the summer months and that was very enjoyable.
He is using the excuse it was me that didn't like the sailing life ? easier to tell his friends "oh we had to come back the Wife didn't like it"

But our marriage has broken down due to the stress of boating and illness. He now says it's my boat to do what I want with?as she holds "too many bad memories?"

I can't sail her single handed and to be honest wouldn't enjoy being on my own.
I can keep her in the water till probably end of May 2015 , but I need to sell her ASAP - any advise welcome.

She is a Moody 42 built 2002. Generator, Water maker , New Navigation equipment, Ais , New Rib Eye dingy and outboard , everything for blue water cruising .

When the dream turns into a nightmare !!!!

 

[Pavalijo]

Speak to John Rodriguez, cruiser, Moody owner, member of MOA and specialist Moody broker. Never used or had any contact with him, but he seems to have a good profile for what you need. You will find him easily via Google. Not sure of spelling though!

Sorry to hear of your difficulties, good luck,
Paul

 

[sailaboutvic]

I have PM you .

www.bluewatersailorcroatia.webs.com

 

[Thedreamoneday]

Firstly, welcome the the forum.

Secondly, I'm sorry to hear of your bad experience and marriage breakdown- people (including myself) have these dreams, sometimes for many years with lots of preparation, saving, practice and then guts to actually go ahead and do it!

I can't and won't try to give you any advice on marriage as I don't know you or your partner nor do I know the full circumstances of your situation.

The boat though, in my limited experience is a well built, very capable blue water cruiser and if she's well looked after and maintained shouldn't be a problem to sell. The issue with all things that are required to be sold quickly is it has to be at an attractive price to catch people attention (it's the same with anything houses, cars etc) so my 2 pennies worth would be either to contact a local broker and seek advice for a realistic price for a quick sale. I'd love a Moody 42 but i feel my offer would offend rather than help.

Good luck

 

[kallamazoo]

Hi
Please send me some details,Ive been looking at Moody's recently to begin my grand depart; so yours maybe an option especially as its probably been given some tlc before things went pear shaped for you.
best regards
S

 

[ziacek]

.... three seasons in the summer months and that was very enjoyable ... I can't sail her single handed ... wouldn't enjoy being on my own ... but I need to sell her ASAP ....

There is a lot of going on in your life and it might be a bit difficult to think for a bit ahead in the future but I bet you will not stay on your own and if you enjoyed sailing in the past then it is likely you may love it again with the right person. If you can afford to keep the boat in the water until the next May then perhaps you are not in the financial difficulties and you could put the boat into a charter (to offset the cost of keeping her and even earn some income) and reconsider the boat future at later date when your personal life settles.

 

[Drews]

Sorry to hear of your situation, I would as suggested get in touch with John Rodriques, I bought my Moody38cc through him. Great guy to deal with and knows his Moody's ! www.jryachts.com
Hope all works out for you.

 

[Tranona]

Another recommendation for John R. You may find selling in Italy a bit difficult and it may be worth getting a crew to deliver it back to UK. See what John suggests.

 

[prv]

A third vote for John if you do decide to sell. He knows his stuff and is honest and straightforward - I would trust his advice.

We didn't sell our last boat through him, because he explained why we would be better off with a different broker for that type of boat. He nevertheless gave us some useful free information and advice.

Pete

 

[alexsailor]

good place to put an ad for selling the boat

 

[AIDY]

Yup agree about john... Also advert on the moody owners forum magazine compass. If your happy to sell yourself with out a broker. I sold our s38 online through Apollo duck and the yacht market.

Best of luck. M42 are quite desirable boats

 

[bigwow]

Never mind getting rid of the boat, is there not a sailors dating web site to replace the man in your life?

 

[mariadz]

Yet another vote for john at jryachts. We bought our Moody through him last year. He is very knowledgeable and good with blue water cruisers in particular because he has been there and done it (bought the t-shirt and wife wrote the book )

I would also agree with putting it onto the Moody Owners Association site. You may also find there are people on the site who are looking for a Moody.

Good luck.

 

[wingdiver]

Another alternative if keeping the boat is an option -
When we bought ours in Italy, we were planning to ship her back to Holland by road using Van de Wetering (http://www.vandewetering.nl/en/) and then sail her back from there to the UK (as shipping across the channel/North sea adds a massive cost),
As it happens, we couldn't ship from Portoroz (Slovenia) because she was too tall to go through the Alpine tunnels but we did take her round Italy to Port Napoleon in Southern France and she was shipped by road to Breskens from there.

 

[KellysEye]

>but I need to sell her ASAP ..He now says it's my boat to do what I want with

You don't say who owns the boat. You can't sell it if you don't own it outright it he could turn round and say you have committed fraud after the event. I say that because divorces are usually a very expensive legal fight over assets. The way to do it is if he owns the boat outright as said only he can sell it and if, as you say, he wants you to sell it and (and get all the money?) you need that in writing and signed. If joint owned you need his agreement to sell it again in writing signed by both of you.

 

[lindsay]

This may be a bit drastic, but in my opinion the boat is just too big for you. Do a deal to sell it or exchange it for something 30 foot. Try for an exchange plus a bit extra for you. You may be able to do this better in France. If you are able, take the financial hit and get on with your life. In such breakups the most important thing is to take action, BUT DONT GIVE UP THE DREAM!

From an old git who has done it before.

Good luck

 

[BrianH]

Hi
I'm new to this forum. I need some advise on selling our boat that is in Italy at the moment.

My husband had a dream that he wanted to sail the med and become a full-time liver board but unfortunately this life wasn't for him. We sold our business, rented our house, emptied our clutter and went to live the dream on our boat, that was in December 2013.(we didn't even get out of the marina)

We had sailed for about three seasons in the summer months and that was very enjoyable.

Can I infer from the above that you would enjoy the lifestyle without your husband - or with somebody else, as in the way of most things, there could one day be somebody else?

You do admit you could not manage alone, and the size is indeed larger than absolutely needed for one. But before you act, I do recommend reading the blog of a forumite, Aquarella, an inspiring story of a brave lady who carried on sailing her boat in Greece after the death of her husband. http://yachtswoman.blogspot.se/2013/03/background_20.html

He now says it's my boat to do what I want with?as she holds "too many bad memories?"

But are you the sole legal owner? Perhaps you are named as a part-owner but therein still lies a problem ... first to sell and secondly to apportion any realised assets. This is where John Rodrigez would be invaluable for advice in sorting out the legal details before acting as a broker.

The very best of luck for resolving your problems.

 

[ribrage]

Hi
I'm new to this forum. I need some advise on selling our boat that is in Italy at the moment.

My husband had a dream that he wanted to sail the med and become a full-time liver board but unfortunately this life wasn't for him. We sold our business, rented our house, emptied our clutter and went to live the dream on our boat, that was in December 2013.(we didn't even get out of the marina)

We had sailed for about three seasons in the summer months and that was very enjoyable.
He is using the excuse it was me that didn't like the sailing life ? easier to tell his friends "oh we had to come back the Wife didn't like it"

But our marriage has broken down due to the stress of boating and illness. He now says it's my boat to do what I want with?as she holds "too many bad memories?"

I can't sail her single handed and to be honest wouldn't enjoy being on my own.
I can keep her in the water till probably end of May 2015 , but I need to sell her ASAP - any advise welcome.

She is a Moody 42 built 2002. Generator, Water maker , New Navigation equipment, Ais , New Rib Eye dingy and outboard , everything for blue water cruising .

When the dream turns into a nightmare !!!!

The boats a marital asset like any other , makes no difference who's name is on the paperwork as they both own 50% of it in the eyes of a divorce court , unless you have it in writing from a team of lawyers that he has "given it to you" technically it's not yours , well not all of it any way.

And if the term was " given it to me to dispose of" he may still want his 50% of the proceeds from the sale of the vessel, keep paying the berthing bill , keep up the maintenance and sell it for a good price as soon as you can and start again when the dust settles.

Been there and done it.

 

[bjl]

This may be a bit drastic, but in my opinion the boat is just too big for you. Do a deal to sell it or exchange it for something 30 foot. Try for an exchange plus a bit extra for you. You may be able to do this better in France. If you are able, take the financial hit and get on with your life. In such breakups the most important thing is to take action, BUT DONT GIVE UP THE DREAM!

From an old git who has done it before.

Good luck

Please don't think that your yacht is too big for a single hander. I have sailed in company with a number of single handlers with that size yacht and larger and they don't appear to have any problems. Nevertheless, if you must sell it, you should sell it.

 

[chinita]

I think the OP should give it to John Rodriguez, sell it and move on.

Happened to me a few years ago during the depths of the credit crunch. Took three years to sell and every day was a grim reminder of bad times.

Life is too short, take a hit and buy something smaller and nicer - just for yourself.