What is in a good 'start up' toolbox?

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Re: What is in a good \'start up\' toolbox?

Hmmm. I was just about to add that if you don't know what to do with the tools your best item will be a mobile phone.
 
Re: What is in a good \'start up\' toolbox?

hm i recognise part of that list - Only an idiot who thought his Pella pump had broken, called to complain and get a replacement and then later found the original one was ok would have two Pella pumps...
 
Re: What is in a good \'start up\' toolbox?

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Was it Bertie Wooster who, "whilst not exactly disgruntled, was far from gruntled"?

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Yes, I believe it was!! Excellent memory!
Was it when he was bouncing a tennis ball off the back of his uncle's prize pig? "Summer Lightning"?
 
Re: What is in a good \'start up\' toolbox?

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My next question ......whats a screw driver? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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EVERYbody knows that!

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I had better Not not ask what technique works best when using a Solder Sucker ? Or even a sucky thing or, how an Easy out works or, when would I use Ptfe Tape and how and where do I apply Assorted Vice Grips ?.... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Re: What is in a good \'start up\' toolbox?

Shocked /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif .........Not /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Now you are just being cowardly custard in your nice warm cage...... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Don\'t Forget the toolbox

As important as the tools you put in it, the toolbox on a boat is very important to get right.

Personally I prefer the most simple option, cantilevers rust, sorting trays on the top always break the hinges or locks or fall open when you open the lid on a foredeck.

It should not be so large as to prove unwieldy when carrying up to the cockpit for example, if required have two small boxes with separate purpose. I for example have an electrical toolbox and the normal boat tool box.

If you have one with a tray ensure the tray is big enough to use alone, i.e. You can carry the tray with selected tools to the foredeck to do a job without half the screwdrivers rolling out of it. Most cheapo boxes have trays that have no purpose other than a shelf inside the box, not so good if you need a tool from underneath and you loose half the shelved stuff into the cockpit or worse.

Cheapo boxes also have trays that adding even the smallest screwdriver prevents the lid from closing. On a pitching boat this is not such a good thing, there are better things to do than sorting out the handles and stuff so the moulded lid will close. Get a box without the sorters on the lid and this problem goes away.

Metal boxes will disintegrate and also damage tools as the damp causes electrolysis problems.

Do not be tempted by the dross in focus or b&crud.

Also, keep your tools oiled, if they touch sea water a wash with fresh and a spray with WD40 should suffice. Never put a tool away wet.

Another thing. Socket sets in moulded flat boxes are rubbish on boats.

hope this helps
 
Re: Don\'t Forget the toolbox

And this may be useful...........
HAYNES MANUAL - THE REAL MEANINGS

For those of us that have ever used a Haynes Manual (or Clymer or Chilton equivalents) in attempting home maintenance of a car or motorbike. For those who havn't used a Haynes Manual, these are the books aimed at those who want to fix their own vehicles and which keep qualified mechanics in paid employment putting things right afterwards. They are chock full of photos, diagrams and step-by-step instructions which are obvious if you are a fully qualified motor mechanic, but which are frighteningly sparse on detail for the average Joe in the street who wants to change a set of spark plugs on a 1981 VW Polo ....

Haynes: Rotate anticlockwise.
Translation: Clamp with molegrips (adjustable wrench) then beat repeatedly with hammer anticlockwise. You do know which way is anticlockwise, don't you?

Haynes: Should remove easily.
Translation: Will be corroded into place ... clamp with adjustable wrench then beat repeatedly with a hammer.

Haynes: Remove small retaining clip.
Translation: Take off 15 years of stubborn crud, it's there somewhere.

Haynes: This is a snug fit.
Translation: You will skin your knuckles! ... Clamp with adjustable wrench then beat repeatedly with hammer.

Haynes: This is a tight fit.
Translation: Not a hope in hell matey! ... Clamp with adjustable wrench then beat repeatedly with hammer.

Haynes: As described in Chapter 7...
Translation: That'll teach you not to read through before you start, now you are looking at scarey photos of the inside of a gearbox.

Haynes: Locate ...
Translation: This photo of a hex nut is the only clue we're giving you.

Haynes: Pry...
Translation: Hammer a screwdriver into...

Haynes: Undo...
Translation: Go buy a tin of WD40 (catering size).

Haynes: Ease ...
Translation: Apply superhuman strength to ...

Haynes: Retain tiny spring...
Translation: "Jeez what was that, it nearly had my eye out"!

Haynes: Press and rotate to remove bulb...
Translation: OK - that's the glass bit off, now fetch some good pliers to dig out the bayonet part and remaining glass shards.

Haynes: Lightly...
Translation: Start off lightly and build up till the veins on your forehead are throbbing then re-check the manual because what you are doing now cannot be considered "lightly".

Haynes: Weekly checks...
Translation: If it isn't broken don't fix it!

Haynes: Routine maintenance...
Translation: If it isn't broken... it's about to be!

Haynes: One spanner rating (simple).
Translation: Your Mum could do this... so how did you manage to botch it up?

Haynes: Two spanner rating.
Translation: Now you may think that you can do this because two is a low, tiny, ikkle number... but you also thought that the wiring diagram was a map of the Tokyo underground (in fact that would have been more use to you).

Haynes: Three spanner rating (intermediate).
Translation: Make sure you won't need your car for a couple of days and that your AA cover includes Home Start.
Translation: But Novas are easy to maintain right... right? So you think three Nova spanners has got to be like a 'regular car' two spanner job.

Haynes: Four spanner rating.
Translation: You are seriously considering this aren't you, you pleb!

Haynes: Five spanner rating (expert).
Translation: OK - but don't expect us to ride it afterwards!!!
Translation #2: Don't ever carry your loved ones in it again and don't mention it to your insurance company.

Haynes: If not, you can fabricate your own special tool like this...
Translation: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Haynes: Compress...
Translation: Squeeze with all your might, jump up and down on, swear at, throw at the garage wall, then search for it in the dark corner of the garage whilst muttering "bugger" repeatedly under your breath.

Haynes: Inspect...
Translation: Squint at really hard and pretend you know what you are looking at, then declare in a loud knowing voice to your wife "Yep, as I thought, it's going to need a new one"!

Haynes: Carefully...
Translation: You are about to cut yourself!

Haynes: Retaining nut...
Translation: Yes, that's it, that big spherical blob of rust.

Haynes: Get an assistant...
Translation: Prepare to humiliate yourself in front of someone you know.

Haynes: Turning the engine will be easier with the spark plugs removed.
Translation: However, starting the engine afterwards will be much harder. Once that sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach has subsided, you can start to feel deeply ashamed as you gingerly refit the spark plugs.

Haynes: Refitting is the reverse sequence to removal.
Translation: But you swear in different places.

Haynes: Locate securing bolt.
Translation: Remember that worrying noise when you drove along the A38 last summer? That's where you'll find the securing bolt.

Haynes: Prise away plastic locating pegs...
Translation: Snap off...

Haynes: Remove drum retaining pin.
Translation: Break every screwdriver in your box.

Haynes: Using a suitable drift or pin-punch...
Translation: The biggest nail in your tool box isn't a suitable drift!

Haynes: Everyday toolkit
Translation: Ensure you have an RAC Card & Mobile Phone

Haynes: Apply moderate heat...
Translation: Placing your mouth near it and huffing isn't moderate heat.
Translation #2: Heat up until glowing red, if it still doesn't come undone use a hacksaw.
Translation #3: Unless you have a blast furnace, don't bother. Clamp with adjustable wrench then beat repeatedly with hammer.

Haynes: Index
Translation: List of all the things in the book bar the thing you want to do!

Haynes: Remove oil filter using an oil filter chain wrench or length of bicycle chain.
Translation: Stick a screwdriver through it and beat handle repeatedly with a hammer.

Haynes: Replace old gasket with a new one.
Translation: I know I've got a tube of Krazy Glue around here somewhere.

Haynes: Grease well before refitting.
Translation: Spend an hour searching for your tub of grease before chancing upon a bottle of washing-up liquid (dish soap). Wipe some congealed washing up liquid from the dispenser nozzle and use that since it's got a similar texture and will probably get you to Halfords to buy some Castrol grease.

Haynes: See illustration for details
Translation: None of the illustrations notes will match the pictured exploded, numbered parts. The unit illustrated is from a previous or variant model. The actual location of the unit is never given.

Haynes: Drain off all fluids before removing cap.
Translation: Visit bathroom, spit on ground, remove baseball cap in order to scratch head in perplexity.

Haynes: Top up fluids.
Translation: Drink 2 cans of beer and call out a mobile mechanic to undo the damage.

For Added Haynes Fun, go to the first section "Safety First" and read the bit about Hydrofluoric Acid. Would you really trust the advice of a book that uses this form of understatement?

The best one I encountered was how to change a brake sensor in a Ford Fiesta Popular Plus. The photo showing the location of the unit failed to mention the crucial detail of whether the item was located in the engine compartment or inside the car ..... and the helpful photo of what the thing looked like didn't give the reader any clues!



THE CONDENSED HAYNES MANUAL
All makes and models post-2000

For a modern car chock full of electronics, all that's in the Haynes Manual (aka "The Haynes Bumper Book of Jokes") is:

Routine Service: Take it to a main dealer and hand over a large amount of cash.

Advanced Service: Open the bonnet. Decide all that stuff is far too scary. Proceed with routine service (see above).
 
Re: Don\'t Forget the toolbox

EXCELLENT!! I hereby nominate you for this year's Pulitzer Prize for Honest 'Book' Reviews.If only more people would realize the truth of what you have written!

I followed a full apprenticeship before graduating as mechanical engineer (forty odd years ago) and still I find the Haynes publication a severe test of my mechanical aptitude.

Fortunately I am a great enthusiast for crossword and jigsaw puzzles: I find that it helps.

Well Done once again.
 
Re: What is in a good \'start up\' toolbox?

Brendan, Duncan... if your boat needs such a toolkit, SELL IT and get a nice maintenence-free new awb !
 
Re: Don\'t Forget the toolbox

Thank you, I will take that into consideration.
 
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