What don't women like about sailing....

I have asked my wife and she is telling me the following:I don't like it when is cold and wet; I hate steering the boat, especially near other boats; there is no shower on the boat; getting from the dinghy to the boat; anti-fouling the boat; don't like it when windy, don't like it when the sails are up;
 
CAPTAIN FANTASTIC said:
I have asked my wife and she is telling me the following:I don't like it when is cold and wet; I hate steering the boat, especially near other boats; there is no shower on the boat; getting from the dinghy to the boat; anti-fouling the boat; don't like it when windy, don't like it when the sails are up;
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Cap'n, with respect, I don't think I would like much that your wife experiences while sailing!
 
Victoria Sponge said:
We have a AWB - Benny 323, and the heads are excellent, roomy and well designed.
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Yes most AWBs have loos that would be dangerous to use in a sea as they are just too spacious with few handholds.
In a sea.... small is good!
Mind you AWBs are really floating caravans to go from marina to marina aren't they? :)
 
Scotty_Tradewind said:
Yes most AWBs have loos that would be dangerous to use in a sea as they are just too spacious with few handholds.
In a sea.... small is good!
Mind you AWBs are really floating caravans to go from marina to marina aren't they? :)
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I've used ours plenty of times at sea, and it isn't in the least bit dangerous, or lacking in handholds. Ha ha, that old chestnut, again! We have a well used anchor and we often pick up a mooring. My favourite season was spent on a swing mooring, with just the wading birds and the seagulls for company.
 
Scotty_Tradewind said:
Yes most AWBs have loos that would be dangerous to use in a sea as they are just too spacious with few handholds.
In a sea.... small is good!
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Odd then, how larger yachts tend to have dangerously spacious loos!

I'd rather have a decent-sized loo compartment with handrails, than the average god-damned upright coffin that many designers seem to think will suffice.
 
The only thing I really hate about going sailing is NOT being able to, closely followed by not being able to on my own boat....

I will admit to never being first in the queue when it comes to fixing the heads which my other half constantly ribs me on but I have to give him some little annoyance don't I? Apart from that when we bought our current boat and he avowed to understand how everything worked/is rigged/wired/plumbed etc so we could be self-sufficient I simply became his apprentice so there is not much on our home I don't know something about. I love to learn technical stuff and I'm a hobby silversmith so I collect tools!

And the thing he hates most is now I've retired I get more opportunity to sail than he does - I clocked up my first big ocean passage without him, I race for fun most Tuesday evenings whilst he is still at work, I teach sailing to learning disable students once a week and regularly get invites to crew from girlfriends whose husbands are away.
 
janeK said:
Absolutely right, if this is possible such an easy remedy, then the chaps can make as much mess as they like without the ladies complaining....

janeK
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Jane, if the blokes thought theyhad their own heads they would bother even less with aiming and you would smell the heads throughout the boat! On my boat if a bloke thinks he can ignore the sit to pee rule (and its easy to tell after a few uses and the area gets smelly with splashes) then hes off the boat and never allowed back on.
 
Chrissie said:
Jane, if the blokes thought theyhad their own heads they would bother even less with aiming and you would smell the heads throughout the boat! On my boat if a bloke thinks he can ignore the sit to pee rule (and its easy to tell after a few uses and the area gets smelly with splashes) then hes off the boat and never allowed back on.
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Chrissie,

hopefully not too much information, but I worked out the 'sit to pee' rule long ago; not so much for niceties, but when one kneels in front of the loo and the boat is pitching and rolling, ones' stomach muscles are too tight to 'go', even the old trick of thinking of a waterfall doesn't help!

As for comments about men shouting, true enough, there's a Basil Fawlty in all of us but as I mentioned earlier some women can be downright violent...my idea of bliss is the 'silent boat', where manouvres are carried out with just an exchange of glances and a slight nod, but it takes a lot of sailing together to get to that state.
 
Great thread!

My wife is very keen on sailing.... but like many (me included!), much prefers it when the weather is nice.... will however go with what we get.... I get really cross when I see males shouting at their female crew.... my wife is intelligent and independent.... and if I shouted at her, then i'd get just what I deserved.... on our boat, decision making is a joint activity... if we sail as equals, then we continue enjoying it as equals.

However, my biggest reward is my daughter.... now fast approaching 18, and she LOVES sailing.... will hassle me senseless to get a trip in :D She also dinghy sails, and is a good competent navigator.... so my feeling... start 'em young (equally applicable to all genders), make it fun, and most of all, make sure its a joint activity without unengaged passengers!

PS.... To those doubting it, there are definitely good female skippers.... reference ChattingLil above.... i've seen her handle a boat, and i'd crew for her happily.
 
Phoenix of Hamble said:
Great thread!
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However, my biggest reward is my daughter.... now fast approaching 18, and she LOVES sailing.... will hassle me senseless to get a trip in :D She also dinghy sails, and is a good competent navigator.... so my feeling... start 'em young (equally applicable to all genders), make it fun, and most of all, make sure its a joint activity without unengaged passengers!

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And she will have the pick of good looking young men ....
A girlfriend who sails is a young mans dream...
 
dancrane said:
You mean..."buy a forty-footer, or bigger!" Sound advice on many counts, if funds permit. There are littler boats with two loos, but they're littler loos, too. Try saying that quickly after a liquid lunch...;)
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I think there's more truth in that comment than you think. When we got our current boat, it all got so much better. Not only do you have better loo facilities (and hot showers), but it never seems quite as windy as before and the waves seem smaller (with the extra length and weight it all just stands up to everything that much better). Also, you can reef early to keep the boat reasonably flat but still make good speed. We don't have a sprayhood on the current boat either (I hate the damn things) and it's not been a problem as we get very little spray coming back as far as the cockpit.

All in all it makes for a much calmer and more pleasant experience. But as you say, it's subject the funds I guess.
 
Seajet said:
Chrissie,

hopefully not too much information, but I worked out the 'sit to pee' rule long ago; not so much for niceties, but when one kneels in front of the loo and the boat is pitching and rolling, ones' stomach muscles are too tight to 'go', even the old trick of thinking of a waterfall doesn't help!

As for comments about men shouting, true enough, there's a Basil Fawlty in all of us but as I mentioned earlier some women can be downright violent...my idea of bliss is the 'silent boat', where manouvres are carried out with just an exchange of glances and a slight nod, but it takes a lot of sailing together to get to that state.
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I've heard the saying about 'not knowing your arris from your elbow', but some explanation is surely required when the "sit down to pee" rule, results in you on your "knees in front of the loo".:p
 
goosewing said:
:eek: I deny everything...
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Goosewing,

oh go on, just a peck ! :)

Scotty Tradewind,

my boat is not exactly large enough to get lost in, but I fitted a teak handle by the loo for 'bracing' in seas.

My ex RAF boss recounted the time when he and a chum, on National Service, were billetted in an ex- 'Star and Garter' home; his young chum appeared, ashen faced, " Jim, the food here must be bloody terrible, they've got straining handles in the loos ! "
 
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alant said:
I've heard the saying about 'not knowing your arris from your elbow', but some explanation is surely required when the "sit down to pee" rule, results in you on your "knees in front of the loo".:p
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alant,

given 4'8" headroom I'm sure you could work it out !

I fitted spongy 'hatchseal' strips on the step in front of the loo to be kind on knees ( and got instantly attacked by my feminist ex', " Is this a MALE thing ? " ! :rolleyes: but the sit down technique usually seems best.
 
Seajet said:
alant,

given 4'8" headroom I'm sure you could work it out !

I fitted spongy 'hatchseal' strips on the step in front of the loo to be kind on knees ( and got instantly attacked by my feminist ex', " Is this a MALE thing ? " ! :rolleyes: but the sit down technique usually seems best.
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Lucky you, on your knees with todger displayed & "instantly attacked by a feminist"!

"Is this a MALE thing?", must have been embarrasing for you! ;)
 
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