Westerly Oceanlord bites the dust in Arwen

[Poignard]

Hmm, there's something to be said about being in a boatyard which is somewhat lower than the surrounding land, and also surrounded by tall whippy trees. ?

Oh my gawd!

Mine is at the top of a steep hill! ?

 

[NormanS]

Oh my gawd!

Mine is at the top of a steep hill! ?

Look on the bright side. So was Noah's. ?

 

[flaming]

When we had a hoolie in Hamble at the end of October these Cape 31s were blown over. (No sails at all).

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What puzzles me about the Oceanlord in the OP is that I'd have expected the insurance co's were shaken out of their torpor and started reminding boatyards of their duty? I'd also have thought they'd write to owners, but I certainly haven't had anything.

And how we forget. Post Michael Fish's non-hurricane in '87 the rule was flatly mast down, full stop.

In fairness to the capes they were the innocent victims of the Fast 40 that started it all.

Quite lucky that Ran's keel was off, otherwise you can only assume that particular game of dominos would have continued right down the row.

 

[dunedin]

When we had a hoolie in Hamble at the end of October these Cape 31s were blown over. (No sails at all).

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What puzzles me about the Oceanlord in the OP is that I'd have expected the insurance co's were shaken out of their torpor and started reminding boatyards of their duty? I'd also have thought they'd write to owners, but I certainly haven't had anything.

And how we forget. Post Michael Fish's non-hurricane in '87 the rule was flatly mast down, full stop.

Their cradles looked far too narrow at the base, an accident waiting to happen

 

[oldmanofthehills]

My headrail goes on at the start of the season and comes off at the end. Same with the main. Like others I furl against a slight sheet tension and the sheets wrap round the sail at least 3 times. There is also some furling line left on the furler. All ines are cleated off. So far no problems after 25 plus years and the boat has seen some summer storms.

Our boat is small. There is no way and no where to flake genoa on deck so it must be simply stuffed into the saloon. So left on furler and rope wrapped around as backup. The salvage strip is paid for to protect the sail, so must do its job. The boat is paid for to provide comfort and amusement for us and I expect the genoa will out last my time on earth with such precautions as I can take.

I was caught out by covid in terms of not removing it at lift out then not being allowed in yard. But yard sheltered, boat never fell over and anyway compared with 150 thousand dead the risk of damage to boat must be small beer.

 

[anoccasionalyachtsman]

Their cradles looked far too narrow at the base, an accident waiting to happen

Pretty sure nobody really thought past the vague rule of thumb about them being as wide as the boat. Not so smart with very long keels.

I hear that tie down rings are commonplace in Southern US yards.

 

[LONG_KEELER]

Mea culpa. (a) I wasn't expecting the boat to be ashore for an extended time, but one thing led to another, etc. and (b) whenever I visited the boat (a good distance away from home) I was alone and it was too windy to want to wrestle with the unfurled genoa to get it down.

I always leave the genoa securely tied furled, though, and don't rely on the sheets and furler to keep it so.

Yes. It's not easy doing it on your own. Particularly if you have a mooring. The wind is normally in the wrong direction/strength. The best place is in a marina berth but you cannot always be there when you need to. I'm interested in finding out if boatyards take them off for free.

 

[Poignard]

Yes. It's not easy doing it on your own. Particularly if you have a mooring. The wind is normally in the wrong direction/strength. The best place is in a marina berth but you cannot always be there when you need to. I'm interested in finding out if boatyards take them off for free.

My boatyard's owner would charge you for saying Bonjour.

 

[Boathook]

I'm interested in finding out if boatyards take them off for free.

I doubt many would do it free.
The yard I'm at might if I had a problem and couldn't get down (100 mile journey each way) but normally they charge. They do say thank you for monies received and have been helpful over the years such as putting extra warps out in storms to help reduce fender load.

 

[mjcoon]

My boatyard's owner would charge you for saying Bonjour.

Ah, but would he mean it?

 

[ProDave]

Up here both the harbours we use insist on masts down for winter storage on the hard.

 

[Sandy]

I'm interested in finding out if boatyards take them off for free.

Free! If you ever find out please let us know.

 

[SaltyC]

Previously with a Dacron Jib, I always removed when leaving for a few weeks, flaked and bagged the jib - singlehanded on deck. Gave peace of mind and the UV stripped lasted for ever!
Since getting a new Vectran jib it's too stiff to easily flake on deck (or pontoon) single handed, so now have to leave it on April to October, tightly furl, 3 wraps of jib sheet. Then unwrap Starboard Genoa sheet and add 3 wraps in the other direction wrap around winch and lock. My (probably faulty) theory is, if furling line breaks / becomes loose the jib cannot unwrap as the sheets are pulling in alternate directions. Just remember to FULLY unwind starboard sheet before unfurling to sail - OOPS!
In October, new jib removed and old Dacron, easily dropped and flaked is used over winter. NEVER left on when on the hard.

 

[grumpy_o_g]

Thank you all for you educational responses...

 

[grumpy_o_g]

Hmm, there's something to be said about being in a boatyard which is somewhat lower than the surrounding land, and also surrounded by tall whippy trees. ?

I would have have thought a boatyard higher than the surrounding land would have technically been a car park, gravity and water being what they are, but I stand corrected by Poignard....

 

[LONG_KEELER]

All Westerly Oceanlords were fin keel.

All yards will remove sails for a fee, so there is no excuse for them to be left on. Having recently read a number of marina terms and conditions (and I expect many boatyards have similar), they can when necessary do work like move a boat, secure a boat if warps break, lift out a boat that is sinking, etc - all at the owners expense. They can even break into a boat if they do not have keys.

See "Fee" above. Misread as "free".
Apologies all. Still breaking in a set of Specsavers.

 

[Lucy52]

Following this incident, the marina has sent this email to berth holders:

Please see below a list of Dos and Don'ts when using the Hard Standing

1. All sails to be removed before haul.
2. Spray hoods to be removed before haul.
3. Bilge keel boats will be strapped to bilge keel beams to avoid overturning, do not remove the straps.
4. Bilge keel boats without hold down straps to have mast lowered.
5. All halyards to be adequately frapped.
6. No cheap covers, these blow to pieces in gales.
7. Check cockpit drains are clear of debris and leaves.
8. Do not alter cradle or boat props when antifouling,
9. Or remove any boat propping,
10. Or use Marina forklift pallets.
11. Long leads to be checked regularly and be long enough not to need joiners or junctions, any leads found to be faulty or with inadequate joiners, will be removed / unplugged.
12. Remove dinghy outboard motors.

 

[Travelling Westerly]

Is it definitely an Oceanlord? Looks different to most of the others. The forward head looks to be starboard side to?