Watchet dredging well underway.

[TSB240]

Western Marinas state they have no connection to the Marine and Property Group. The proof of the pudding is in the constant dredging since September and replacement of pontoons and equipment plus the imminent recommissioning of the gate.

You can't have a connection with TM&P group as it is in administration. Weasel words from his co director at the Marine Group.

Oh dear! Is this sufficient proof.

THE MARINE GROUP - COMMERCIAL LTD, CF11 8TU : Companies House Number 11180667.

 

[Binnacle]

Some local businesses and political connections seem to believe that the 'Swiss' director COS ( previously the sole director) has nothing to do with present Watchet

Would that it were true ! And that we could have had a French style community owned Marina. The old West Somerset District Council was blind to Dean and Dyball's design failures re mud control, then Env Agency and MMO banned moving mud from inside to the Bristol Channrl at first ( now fully permitted, one understands)

 

[PCUK]

I'm not a big business aficionado so this seems like an awful muddle to me.
In simple terms does anyone know:-
Is Odling Smee still in control or part of Western Marinas?
Is Western Marinas part of or linked to The Marine and Property Group?
I just look at the progress being made on the ground at Watchet.

 

[38mess]

I'm not a big business aficionado so this seems like an awful muddle to me.
In simple terms does anyone know:-
Is Odling Smee still in control or part of Western Marinas?
Is Western Marinas part of or linked to The Marine and Property Group?
I just look at the progress being made on the ground at Watchet.

I'm in Cardiff marina about once a month on business. Last time I was there about 2 weeks ago OS was walking down the pontoon!!
I was told by a berth holder that the dry stack, workshops and boat lift are run by MPG all the rest is run by WM, the carpark has apparently been sold off for building work. Still no fuel.
Don't know who owns the dredger
All rumours.

 

[Binnacle]

That's interesting: I have just had some information.

Odling Smee is Danish , not British, nor Swiss.
Marine and Property Group has two charges outstanding against the company, both relating to CardifF Marine Village.

Even more interesting is that a finance group, Tab London Limited , seems to have an outstanding relationship with both Marine and Property Group, and Western Marinas.

 

[SaltIre]

I'm in Cardiff marina about once a month on business. Last time I was there about 2 weeks ago OS was walking down the pontoon!!
I was told by a berth holder that the dry stack, workshops and boat lift are run by MPG all the rest is run by WM, the carpark has apparently been sold off for building work. Still no fuel.
Don't know who owns the dredger
All rumours.

The Marine Group have a fleet of dredgers.
Dredging - The Marine Group | Comprehensive Marine Services

 

[TSB240]

That's interesting: I have just had some information.

Odling Smee is Danish , not British, nor Swiss.
Marine and Property Group has two charges outstanding against the company, both relating to CardifF Marine Village.

Even more interesting is that a finance group, Tab London Limited , seems to have an outstanding relationship with both Marine and Property Group, and Western Marinas.

Wrong OS has a Danish Mother so has dual nationality, Swiss residency.

Is funding of the various companies linked to borrowing on Bayscape assets in Cardiff?

The convoluted company structure is just like TM&PG before administration.

Sadly the major difference now is
COS Investments sarl appears to hold the purse strings for the whole pack of cards.

I am no expert but I understand that Luxembourg (sarl) remains off limits to financial investigations. Perhaps this was beyond the reach of receivers for TMPG, Burry Port, Aberystwth or Port Dinorwic?

FYI

OS registered a company called PD Marina ltd in February last year and then as it escaped his grasp he renamed this company The Marine Group Services.

Around the same time he registered W Marina Ltd he remains listed as the sole director.

 

[Waced]

Worth checking out the press release at Progress at Watchet Marina and Lease Extension Signed

 

[PCUK]

Makes me cautiously optimistic.

 

[Zephyr362]

I emailed Watchet the other day for an update.

“The central area of the marina (including A, B and most of C pontoons) are fully dredged. We will be finishing off the top of C and the area around F pontoon and the slipway in the coming weeks.

We have the marina gate operating in ‘manual’ mode and have impounded water on several days over the past week. We are working on the final elements to have the gate working as it should be in ‘auto’ mode. We hope to have news on that soon. We will then be planning further resilience work on the gate but will be back up and running as the marina should be.”

Sounds positive and looking forward to visiting them again.

 

[PCUK]

It seems despite all the business uncertainty that real progress is being made on the water. I was hoping to get back this season, but it will have to be next year now.

 

[Waced]

Thought this would be of interest.​

From the Watchet Marina Facebook page

Watchet Marina​

𝐖𝐚𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐭 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐚 – 𝐄𝐚𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤𝐞𝐧𝐝 𝐔𝐩𝐝𝐚𝐭𝐞

As you may have seen, we’ve dredged a significant area of Watchet Marina, and the marina gate is currently operating in 𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐚𝐥 𝐦𝐨𝐝𝐞. We're getting very close to switching over to 𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐨𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐜 𝐦𝐨𝐝𝐞, but we won’t quite be there in time for the Easter weekend.
That said, we’d love to welcome visitors back over Easter! Our incredible marina and dredging teams will be 𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐲 𝐨𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐠𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐲 𝐭𝐢𝐝𝐞 from 𝐓𝐡𝐮𝐫𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝟏𝟕𝐭𝐡 𝐀𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐥 𝐭𝐨 𝐓𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝟐𝟐𝐧𝐝 𝐀𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐥.
Here are the times the marina will be accessible:

𝐓𝐡𝐮𝐫𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝟏𝟕𝐭𝐡 𝐀𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐥 – 18:45 to midnight

𝐅𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝟏𝟖𝐭𝐡 𝐀𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐥 – 07:00 to 11:45 𝐨𝐫 19:00 to midnight

𝐒𝐚𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝟏𝟗𝐭𝐡 𝐀𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐥 – 07:30 to 12:15 𝐨𝐫 20:00 to 01:15 (AM)

𝐒𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝟐𝟎𝐭𝐡 𝐀𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐥 – 08:30 to 13:30 𝐨𝐫 20:30 to 02:15 (AM)

𝐌𝐨𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝟐𝟏𝐬𝐭 𝐀𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐥 – 09:30 to 14:30 𝐨𝐫 22:15 to 03:45

𝐓𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝟐𝟐𝐧𝐝 𝐀𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐥 – after 11:15
If you’d like to join us for the weekend, please get in touch!

watchetmarina@westernmarinas.co.uk

01984 322230