WASH!!!!!

[boatone]

I think most reasonable people realise that boats are not static objects and are subject to movement caused by outside forces such as wind, currents....and wash. Most reasonable people exercise self restraint and try not to do things which will inconvenience others, i.e. they behave responsibly, show consideration for others, and treat other people as they would like to be treated themselves.

As I said in an earlier post, this thread is not really about wash at all. It's actually about some people indulging in unreasonable (antisocial) behaviour resulting in a level of wash that offends and causes discomfort for other river users or possibly even damage to property.

Some of them may well not even be aware they are causing the problem. By the time the 'effect' is experienced by others the 'cause' has already passed by, probably without so much as a backward glance.

 

[rosssavage]

Perhaps the answer is to expect to have wash whilst aboard your boat then people won't be upset when they experience waves?

I am sick of some of the rowers on the tideway who in central London scream at you for creating a wash. Bottom line their boats are unsuitable not a question of wash.

CJL

I do. Read the post - I am a liveaboard with a riverbank mooring, and I expect wash and noisy rowers. Generally, I live with it, as it comes with the territory. I also put up with a lot of people who are generating too much wash without a moan - life's too short.

However, in this instance, the wash was more than excessive, and it was created by boats who were out on red boards and were too impatient to progress at a sensible pace. I was using my RIB to take family members out for short trips as I considered the river flow unsuitable for my big boat, and the wash could have caused people to fall out of the boat had they been em/disembarking when they passed.

I accept the risk of using any boat on red boards, but it is unacceptable to have to deal with selfish river users who clearly have no concern for the safety and comfort of others.

 

[CJL]

Trouble is mate, if you're not aboard, then this magnitude of wash can cause damage, and I'm sure you wouldn't want to come back to your boat and find it damaged, while an ill mannered Skipper howls past would you?

And as much as I appreciate the Rower thing, and hate the selfish gits, there is Wash, and there is WASH!!

If they scream at a little wash, I shrug and sail on.

I haven't see the pictures in the original post so I would not want to make a comment on that particular boat and I agree it can be very frustrating at times.

I was dropping the crew of a New Zealand Waka on the shore at Poplar & Blackwall RC recently and the Rozzers screamed past, dumping me on the concrete slipway - not cool but it's taking the argument to extremes.

Despite this still I accept that wash is part of boating.

When I leave a boat for a long time, I would anticipate wash and potential damage so I prepare or moor in locations that it wont be a problem. I appreciate its a bit different with a big cruiser with more limited mooring locations, but could a logic similar to mine not be adopted by some owners and they would be able to enjoy the boating experience a bit more?

CJL

 

[Deefor]

Despite this still I accept that wash is part of boating. CJL

So there I am a few weeks ago moored just upstream from Ross at MDL Windsor on a calm day. Idiot comes past on the far bank and creates sooo much wash that my brand new Viking 20 on it's maiden outing gets lifted up and dropped back onto the marina frontage capping. Result - several £'s worth of damage to the rubbing strake and hull just below.

And you think this is acceptable? The smaller the boat the bigger the risk of damage. Suffice to say that I always moor inside at MDL Windsor from now on.

It's no good shouting at the offending boats as they go past because those that do slow down at this point, it's too late - the wash is already there and can't be stopped. Skippers need to look well ahead to see what's about or moored up

 

[Captain Coochie]

You should have had your fenders down

 

[SnowCat]

It's no good shouting at the offending boats as they go past because those that do slow down at this point, it's too late - the wash is already there and can't be stopped. Skippers need to look well ahead to see what's about or moored up

Agreed!

They also need the basic common sense to think of the possible effects that their wash will cause.

 

[Deefor]

You should have had your fenders down

That never occured to me .

 

[dash300]

On the Weybridge Weir stream we don't get much wash but sympathise with those that do.
I couldn't handle it personally.
However after being away for the past 10 days and watching the weather reports I am wondering if some river pikey is now enjoying my washed away garden chairs etc. Will find out tomorrow

 

[CJL]

And you think this is acceptable?

Just like you I'd be pi__ed but I'd blame myself for not putting a tight spring on!

CJL

 

[Richard Shead]

Oh Gawd ........ They're talking about this thread in the lounge !

Fame at last ...

 

[oldgit]

They just might start rambling some sense ?

"Oh Gawd ........ They're talking about this thread in the lounge !"

"Fame at last ..."




Just think how much more civilised the Lunge could be if some of them got a girl friend stopped living with their mum and started to go out in daylight.

 

[lenny]

Disappointingly, I'm going to whinge. For the first time. Ever.

The river is on red boards. This means it is flowing. Fast. This means going upstream is going to be slow.

It has become apparent that, increasingly, boats are not keeping to the speed limit in the Boveney to Bray reach and generally, although slightly annoying for a riverbank resident, it's not the end of the world. However, despite being advised not to navigate in these conditions, skippers are continuing to use the river (ok, your call, it's your boat).

PLEASE accept that this means your journey upstream is going to be painfully slow, this is NOT an excuse to go steaming up river destroying the speed limit and attempting the water speed record.

Yesterday, I had eight on my boat celebrating my mothers 69th birthday. We did not leave the moorings as we had planned due to the river conditions, so we had to endure the daft and frankly selfish antics of those going upstream in MoBo's. The NB's created no problems.

At one point yesterday afternoon three boats came along together, headed by a 90's Broom 37(?) and swamped my bathing platform - in 6 years here the wash hasn't been bad enough to actually bury the platform as it was yesterday, and the poor Broom 30 behind me really took a beating.

Yes, I appreciate that being on a riverbank mooring I have to live with wash (and noisy early morning rowing antics) but it is becoming a joke. I have phoned Boveney lock this morning to ask them to remind people about the conditions, speed limit and wash.

I'm not going to threaten users with the videoing and reporting stick yet, but please, please accept that if you choose to navigate in these conditions the speed limit and wash rules STILL APPLY!! You WILL take all day to get anywhere, but that is the nature of the beast.

Rant over

Sadly. Alot of people that moan cause wash throughout the year on there own boats!!!