Voyage Log.

Seastoke said:
He is now that age where ,he does not know whether he was going the loo or drop the anchor, if mixed up is very messy.
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Surely we all have a spare genoa halyard to haul us out of the anchor locker when our bum is wedged in there?
 
Going across to Dunkerque next week .
RTYC the organisers, have stated there is no legal requirement, however rumour is that recently a log was made a legal requirement.
Am aware that details of the trip and those aboard on exit and re entry must be sent to Border Force,
Makes no odds as we always keep a log on all trips anyway.
 
This was the advice given by the RYA yesterday:

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Drilling down into that:
RYA said:
Voyage Log
Although there is no legal requirement for a UK flagged pleasure craft to keep a log of its voyages, it is good practice to do so, especially when on longer trips. It is not unknown for foreign officials to request to see the log. An old log may also be useful if it is necessary to demonstrate a boat's historical location for example when demonstrating eligibility for returned goods relief.
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As Alicatt points out so well, big difference between pottering about in UK coastal waters and “going foreign” - where it is just possible (though unlikely) that some official could ask for evidence of route and whether this is actual point of entry, vs been in their waters previously without completing formalities (which does happen).

Also some confusion about a few things after RYA recently published a reminder about SOLAS rules, under which a passage plan is a legal requirement (and has been for many years). But the passage plan just needs to be fit for purpose, and not necessarily written down (though clearly written would be better if something goes wrong and end up having to explain things).
My passage plan for a day sail from our local marina (check weather forecast, check tide time) tends to be rather less detailed, and less documented, than a trip through the Pentland Firth (with lots of double checks of tide times from multiple sources, wave heights, etc).

Enjoy your trip - but don’t forget your UK and French border processes as they are a legal requirement. As is a passage plan for the crossing.
 
dunedin said:
As Alicatt points out so well, big difference between pottering about in UK coastal waters and “going foreign” - where it is just possible (though unlikely) that some official could ask for evidence of route and whether this is actual point of entry, vs been in their waters previously without completing formalities (which does happen).

Also some confusion about a few things after RYA recently published a reminder about SOLAS rules, under which a passage plan is a legal requirement (and has been for many years). But the passage plan just needs to be fit for purpose, and not necessarily written down (though clearly written would be better if something goes wrong and end up having to explain things).
My passage plan for a day sail from our local marina (check weather forecast, check tide time) tends to be rather less detailed, and less documented, than a trip through the Pentland Firth (with lots of double checks of tide times from multiple sources, wave heights, etc).

Enjoy your trip - but don’t forget your UK and French border processes as they are a legal requirement. As is a passage plan for the crossing.
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That is an experience indeed, get it wrong and you could be literally on the rocks, as many have been before when they got it wrong there.

Just now we are starting the passage plan for a trip to France via Maastricht and the Maas (Meuse) for some time in July, at the moment it is a rough idea and came from a suggestion from one of our club members.
My wife's idea of a passage plan is "I want to go there...", I have to flesh it out and then check everything before we sail. At least as a resident in Belgium and the boat is registered there the custom formalities are a bit more relaxed, but still I will have to have all my documents in order - then I wont get asked for them :)
 
Are there any apps for doing a log?
I've just been keeping an Excel spreadsheet but it occurs to me I have two experienced programmers ( my son and his partner) onboard for the next week or so...
 
oldgit said:
Going across to Dunkerque next week .
RTYC the organisers, have stated there is no legal requirement, however rumour is that recently a log was made a legal requirement.
Am aware that details of the trip and those aboard on exit and re entry must be sent to Border Force,
Makes no odds as we always keep a log on all trips anyway.
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If something goes wrong, then it might be investigated as to whether you had a passage plan / log or not.
It's in the category of "Nobody will care if it all goes smoothly, but will be looked at in detail if it doesn't".
 
Have submitted our departure plans and crew details to Border Force online .
Interested to note that our boat club is listed as a UK return "destination."
No problems so far, couple of requirements could be explained a bit better for the hard of understanding.
 
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