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I need a temperature sensor for a 63P. just looked on DB marine web site they want £112 !!!!!
I can buy a car one for @ £12 !. Anyone know where I can get a suitable part without paying rip off prices....
 
Anyone know where I can get a suitable part

Try the usual suspects first .
trickett marine products
Volspec
Coastal rides
 
Volvo parts pricing

I know that this will generate a torrent of hate mail but it needs to be said.

Stated before, but I am certainly NO Green engine man, but here is my take from the outside for what it is worth.

Volvo marine parts distribution system is the benchmark for all their competitors however it comes to actually PAYING for this level of service everybody starts screaming and shouting and hunting for an alternative source. Having parts availability on the shelf has a cost a very high cost.

The marine engine business is relatively small, support costs are significant. It was only a matter of months ago that somebody posted here that they had a failure of a certain Volvo ECU, over £1,000 and the local dealer had it on the shelf! Nobody said fantastic service, just outrage ‘get one from Coastal Rides’ they said.

The dealer, who expect has to hold key items on the shelf as a minimum product support stock level, still has a high cost component on the shelf as insurance that some boaters weekend is not screwed up has to get the revenue back elsewhere, parts business is all about stock turns. Unless a marine dealership can make a minimum of 22.5% Gross Margin across ALL aspects of his business, then the doors have to close.

Has anybody considered consquential damage warranty implicit with the purchase of genuine parts? Injector tip rattling around an engine can leave a trail of damage, faulty genuine part and you are covered for anything else the faulty component damages, try getting that assurance from Coastal Rides.

What did CAT do when they took over Sabre, sold off non-core parts of the business, then set about wiping out much of the support stock of components going back over the last 30 years, insufficient parts turns relegates component to the scrap bin.
What is a vessel worth with perfectly running pair of Sabre Ford 370’s, next to nothing, as over 80% of the engine parts are unobtainable, it is a repower project. Similar vessel with Volvo TD60 of the same era is still viable.

Gentlemen, as you sow so shall you reap...........
 
Well, fair point where it is a relatively specialised part- and maybe it is those that are premium. An oil fiter from Volvo isn that much more expensive, I guess.
 
I take LateStarter's point about maintaining spares etc but £100 (which I paid in the end to Keyparts - good service as usual) still seems a bit steep, I had expected £40 to £60 ish. Never mind I will get over it with a beer or three.
 
Latestarter1 said:
The marine engine business is relatively small, support costs are significant. It was only a matter of months ago that somebody posted here that they had a failure of a certain Volvo ECU, over £1,000 and the local dealer had it on the shelf! Nobody said fantastic service, just outrage ‘get one from Coastal Rides’ they said.

Gentlemen, as you sow so shall you reap..........
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I'm guessing that person was me - so in the quest of being factual, the price I was quoted all in was £2600, not the £1000 you have alluded to.

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223314

And if you care to read back, I had a real bone of contention with your reply, as it was the only one on there, that wasn't really aimed at helping with the immediate problem!!

And yes, for various reasons, I did actually go to Coastal Rides, and didn't regret doing so.
I won't argue that their parts network is specialised & far reaching, but make no bones about it, Volvo Penta, as do most large single make parts networks, make a huge royal return on their outlay.

And I think that what gets peoples backs up, with regards Volvo, is that some parts, due to the stupidity of their design, almost have the life expectancy that they could be catogorised as 'consumable' parts (meaning their life expectancy is very very low - steering rams & hoses to name two), but are priced at unstainable levels abeit for the wealthy few.

And just another point of clarity, the 'ecu' in question wasn't a stock item & would have had to be ordered in especially.
 
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Latestarter1 said:
I know that this will generate a torrent of hate mail but it needs to be said.

Stated before, but I am certainly NO Green engine man, but here is my take from the outside for what it is worth.

Volvo marine parts distribution system is the benchmark for all their competitors however it comes to actually PAYING for this level of service everybody starts screaming and shouting and hunting for an alternative source. Having parts availability on the shelf has a cost a very high cost.

The marine engine business is relatively small, support costs are significant. It was only a matter of months ago that somebody posted here that they had a failure of a certain Volvo ECU, over £1,000 and the local dealer had it on the shelf! Nobody said fantastic service, just outrage ‘get one from Coastal Rides’ they said.

The dealer, who expect has to hold key items on the shelf as a minimum product support stock level, still has a high cost component on the shelf as insurance that some boaters weekend is not screwed up has to get the revenue back elsewhere, parts business is all about stock turns. Unless a marine dealership can make a minimum of 22.5% Gross Margin across ALL aspects of his business, then the doors have to close.

Has anybody considered consquential damage warranty implicit with the purchase of genuine parts? Injector tip rattling around an engine can leave a trail of damage, faulty genuine part and you are covered for anything else the faulty component damages, try getting that assurance from Coastal Rides.

What did CAT do when they took over Sabre, sold off non-core parts of the business, then set about wiping out much of the support stock of components going back over the last 30 years, insufficient parts turns relegates component to the scrap bin.
What is a vessel worth with perfectly running pair of Sabre Ford 370’s, next to nothing, as over 80% of the engine parts are unobtainable, it is a repower project. Similar vessel with Volvo TD60 of the same era is still viable.

Gentlemen, as you sow so shall you reap...........
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Quite right paul, I said all this last week in a post re similar scenario.

Your right about the sabre bit too, I was asked to quote to rebuild a 210, the pistons are NLA , so those cheap humber 40s that I loved many years ago are becoming a project now.

As for the sender unit, be carefull what you buy as it MUST be insulated earth to work,

A correctly and

B safely, as a short will melt your wiring loom and probably cause a fire.

IMHO buy the proper part from RK marine.

As of yet they have never failed to provide the correct parts within 2/3 working days.
 
Parts support and impact on value

Last year I was asked to do an engine survey on an immaculate Nelson 42.

Built to current owners specification in the mid 80's by well regarded South Coast yard, internal and external condition would suggest that boat was no more than five years old.

Used as a country cottage, just 600 hrs. The maintaince file on the vessel reflected the condition, nothing had ever been overlooked.

Due to owners age and increasing ill health he had to reluctantly decided to sell, well over a year on the market produced no offers even though pricing appeared on a level at which similar vessels were changing hands.

The problem was the motors. When putting the spec together the owner had the choice of Ford Sabre 370's or Volvo's the 70's were a little tight so realistic alternative was 61's. At the time owners logic could not be faulted.

Serious purchasers were put off by the fact that there is pretty much zero parts support for the engines. The owner was mortified by the prospect of his much loved and cared for investment was now just a re-power project.

Owner eventually sold for little more than the cost of one of the two re-power options I had put together.
 
A friend recently bought a humber 40 that had been re engined with volvos d6 435hp engines, the job had been done by golden arrow marine, he bought the boat for a little more than market value.

So where has the 50k or so been absorbed?? by the previous owner.
 
Volvos part availability is second to none and good for them,any suggestion of contacting CR etc is purely to obtain that particular Volvo made part at a better price.
In this case part is not similar to anything in the auto trade and personally spent much time and effort with several Lucas agents and assorted motor factors trying to get cheapo nearly the same item.
Ended up buying proper bit from Keypart at well discounted to Volvo list price.
 
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