Volvo D6 EVC PCU unit dead - £2,300 !!!

asteven221 said:
I really coudn't agree more with Sunquest.

I am looking to buy a new boat circa mid 90's, so what popular engines DONT have electronic black boxes controlling them? In my experience with cars e.g. BMW/Jaguar/VW/Porsche etc...... almost every fault that develops seems to require a new ECU! After reading tbis thread, all the problems experienced in cars with ECU's has reminded me that I really would like to avoid ECU's on my next boat if possible. TAMD63P seem to crop up in several boats I have been looking at. Do these engines have electronics controlling them?
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Yanmar??
 
Just a thought, if the control unit is metal bodied try attaching a wire to the body of the unit and running it directly to earth. I only say that because its common on Ducastrophy's. The ECU loses its internal wired connection to earth.
 
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You will be fine with 63p and to be honest the edc 74 and 75 dont give that much trouble and you have the benefit of nice easy to use edc controls. And you dont need a computer to sort out any fault codes that wil come up either.
 
Britain a nation of moaners.

Hard to belive that Britain was once in the forefront of technology, however this thread does give a clue as to why, nobody is seeking answers to problems just gripes and usual barrage of negativity.

Volvopaul's comment has been pretty much ignored "find the source of the problem before you spend ££££££££££££££££££££££" This is the key that requires turning in the lock.

As to other ill informed comments;
"Yanmar" Do you men BY Series, a poorly marinised BMW electronic diesel engine?
"Volvo 63, 73,75 Series" Vs D6. This is a no contest on grounds of performance and overall sociability, i.e smoke and noise.

Merry Christmas to everybody, parliculary those flying to warmer climes, on 100% fly by wire aircraft.
 
Latestarter1 said:
Hard to belive that Britain was once in the forefront of technology, however this thread does give a clue as to why, nobody is seeking answers to problems just gripes and usual barrage of negativity.
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WHAT ARE YOU GOING ON ABOUT?????? The only real Victor Meldrew moment within this thread, has come from your own keyboard? Apart from general comments & peoples considered opinions, which have been greatly received, I see nothing posted on this particular thread, that one could attribute to the downfall of this "once great country!"

Latestarter1 said:
Volvopaul's comment has been pretty much ignored "find the source of the problem before you spend ££££££££££££££££££££££" This is the key that requires turning in the lock.
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Nobody on here has ignored Paul's comment - least of all ME! I apologise that an action plan hasn't been put in to place, but as the result of the Vodia diagnosis from RK Marine wasn't known until yesterday, and the small problem of myself working 12 hour shifts, it has been slightly hard to get the ball rolling.

Latestarter1 said:
"Yanmar" Do you men BY Series, a poorly marinised BMW electronic diesel engine?
"Volvo 63, 73,75 Series" Vs D6. This is a no contest on grounds of performance and overall sociability, i.e smoke and noise.
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At least you didn't use the word reliability, as a strength for the D6!

Latestarter1 said:
Merry Christmas to everybody, parliculary those flying to warmer climes, on 100% fly by wire aircraft.
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Merry Christmas to both yourself, & everyone else here, whether or not you are depending on "fly by wire!".
 
D Series ECU

Hi Jerry

WELL SAID.

Sorry to hear of your problem. As i also have these units on my D4 260 powered S38, i will be very interested on how you get on.

I really hope you manage to sort out at a greatly reduced cost against VP prices.

Best Regards

Keith
 
fergie_mac66 said:
Might be possible to reprogramme

http://www.dnatuning.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=136&Itemid=290

Might be possible to reprogramme

Or d6 breaking for spares will have part here ecu and pcu actually says has pcu for spares

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/COA884

here also

http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/category/Boat+Engines/Inboard+Engines?page=6
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Many thanks Adrian for your time in researching the above - it's very much appreciated. I was on the phone to Coastal Rides first thing this morning, and the young lady there is hopefull that they have a D6 PCU in stock.

CHI said:
Sorry to hear of your problem. As i also have these units on my D4 260 powered S38, i will be very interested on how you get on.
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Hi Keith - hope both you & the "38" are well & good.

My take is that the EVC's reputation is more than likely tainted not through unreliability, but more likely that when it goes wrong, it appears dis-proportionally expensive to fix, in relation to it's perceived sum of parts!
 
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D6 PCU

Hi Jerry
Yes were both fine, thanks. I think you are quite right. The evc system is very good whilst running with no problems, but very , very expensive to fix when not.

Best of luck with Coastal Rides. I hope they can source a PCU.

Best of luck

Keith
 
As to other ill informed comments;
"Yanmar" Do you men BY Series, a poorly marinised BMW electronic diesel engine?
"Volvo 63, 73,75 Series" Vs D6. This is a no contest on grounds of performance and overall sociability, i.e smoke and noise

oh well if you want smoke and noise get what we have Ford Sabre's, and who would want to be sociable anyway.
 
I don't think any engine manufacturer would be able to produce a light weight, high powered diesel engine that would conform to todays emission regulations without having electronic management.

And if its smoke and noise your after what about a pair of V8 two stroke Detroits?
 
You might as well............

If the unit is going to be replaced(and of course they will be binned ? anyway) open up the buggres and have a lookysee inside.Most car ECUs are not encapsulated so maybe neither are marine units.There is an outfit very close to us called BBA who will undertake repair of ECUs and stuff....but not cheap and if they cannot fix it you have wasted time.
These things to not go wrong because they feel like it(well not normally)and something caused it to go,was it exposed to abnormal heat or extreme vibration or has water engress done for it.Opening it up may give a clue as to the cause of its demise,if water has got in then its is usually tracks or input plug pins that carry decent amps and stuff that short out and erode the tracks/pin.Has it had some unwanted volts from something else,would be well advised to get your Volvo people to fit your new/used bits,cos if that replacement one goes,its down to them to sort it ?
 
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ecu's

Not sure if this helps, but to Geoffs point when we picked up our P42 this year they had to replace all four units which had failed during handover test. I was told that they are a known problem but rather than recall they just fix them and deal with the squeaky wheels out of warranty. You may have recourse as it seems this is a well known issue.
Good luck.
 
yankee1 said:
Not sure if this helps, but to Geoffs point when we picked up our P42 this year they had to replace all four units which had failed during handover test. I was told that they are a known problem but rather than recall they just fix them and deal with the squeaky wheels out of warranty. You may have recourse as it seems this is a well known issue.
Good luck.
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Dont think this will help but I do remember a couple of court cases Have looked and cant find them.about a volvo 5 cylinder engin ecu volvo got fined big timemany millions and had to change something about only volvo being able to reset it wish i could find it unfair business pract'

Other one was about electronic thotl control they supposed to be guaranteed for the life of the engine never to fail but they did putting lives at risk big fine again.

Might be worth trying to find out how many other people have had same issue
 
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Check the part number on the PCU and let me know as I might have one that would be OK for you if you do not find one somewhere else.
It will likely need to be reprogrammed if you have LCD display (chassy no conflict will come up) if not, it might work of the bat. Need any EVC info let me know.
 
Capten Cod said:
Check the part number on the PCU and let me know as I might have one that would be OK for you if you do not find one somewhere else.
It will likely need to be reprogrammed if you have LCD display (chassy no conflict will come up) if not, it might work of the bat. Need any EVC info let me know.
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Sorry I havent replied sooner, but thanks for posting.

The details I took off the original PCU are :- 3884478 P/N S101142/R1B

I also have the engine number should it be required.

Many thanks again.
 
Last year we had a problem with a Portofino 35 with D6-310's. SB leg would not trim most of the times. Checked the relais, power etc but all were fine. We are no VP dealer so gave them a call. Took them almost complete season to get the diagnose: a faulty HCU. I don't recieved the bill yet, but they told me that the HCU was around 2500 euro, the software another 1000.

Leaking steering rams, leaking aftercoolers, rusty engine's, broken steeringsender push/pull cable and the trim problem...

If all works fine, it is a super boat, but we do another 35 with KAD 300's, and that would be my choice...
 
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