vistor mooring fees

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In Plockton we have just put down a new trot of moorings for visitors 25 t /13mt ,can you let me know what the average price charged for overnight moorings is for that spec around the country, as we dont want to overcharge. many thanks in advance
 
Move it to the Solent and you could probably charge what ever you liked.
Move it to Scotland and it would have to be free.

All IMHO of course
 
Oh dear, I've just looked at Autoroute, only to discover where Plonkton is.
 
Ah , now I see why John's gone quiet

You'll obviously never achieve South coast fees but as far as I'm aware that area doesn't have much in the way of facilities so anything extra is going to be worth paying for
 
Don't know if this helps

Woolverstone Marina

Annual Berthing
For availability and a quotation call: 01473 780206

Monthly Pontoon Berth payable monthly in advance (excluding electricity)
Any length: £45.50 per metre
All prices are calculated on a pro-rata daily rate

Daily Visitor Berthing (including electricity)
Any length: £2.50 per metre

Summer Swinging Mooring (1st April to 30th September)
Up to 5m: £103.00 per metre
limited availability
5.1m to 11m: £134.00 per metre
restricted draft
5.1m to 11m: £155.00 per metre
deep water limited availability
11.1m +: £177.00 per metre
limited availability
All swinging moorings include summer dinghy storage up to 2.5m in rack, car parking and water taxi. Harbour fees charged separately. Details on request.


Annual swinging moorings available, contact marina office for details



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moving extra
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unlimited launches during this period

Trailer Sailing (storage and unlimited slipway use)
Annual: £170.00 per metre
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Weekly car park: £15.00
Park services:
Nightly touring van: £14.25 per night
Weekly touring van: £80.00 per week
Static site: £1030.00 per annum
 
From our experience of vistor moorings up the whole West Coast (of Scotland) and knowing the attraction of Plockton you could probably charge £12 overnight and get away with it, but possibly raise some antipathy and discourage return visits.
£10 would probably be regarded as reasonable, and £8 very good value, in which case you should limit the length of stay!
A personal opinion/evaluation of course: not being a marketing guru!
Good news anyway, and we shall take one sometime this summer: unless you under-charge and there is not a vacant one to be found!
Good luck with the venture!
 
How many have you put down?

I prefer to anchor in Plockton at any rate as the holding is very good - especially over the sailing clubs' start/finish line

Donald
 
rothesay (BBC) = overnight swinging mooring £5.00 (i believe it has been put up to £7.00 this year)

millport = free

will Hamish Macbeth be enforcing non payments /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

seriously tho I spent a weeks holiday in plockton and was in awe of its magical settings (oh and the filming was under way as well which was good fun)
 
I agree - very good holding at Plockton - not much else mind you - local amenities, not a lot, water IIRC was from a standpipe in the middle of the village green and "miles" from a decent landing site - there was a Post office IIRC but it was only open 2 or was it 3 mornings each week. Moorings should be free but limited to say two nights.

No fuel available locally.

If you want to bring money into the local economy you really need of think about free visitors moorings and not try ripping off the visitors. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Twelve pounds a night. Pay for two nights, get the third night free.

[/ QUOTE ]Just anchor and get all 3 nights free! Fortunately in Scotland there are very few places where one cannot anchor for free - legally - and guess what - Plockton is not one of the restricted areas despite what the local sailing club might think.
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If there are no other facilities then £5 a night would be reasonable. With a 2.5 tonne boat we don't need such big moorings and would be unhappy to pay more.

We anchored a few years ago in Plockton in 30 knots and the holding seemed very good, but would prob. take a mooring at £5 a night. Otherwise, bigger boats will probably happily pay £10 a night. Have you thought about varying charges according to boat length or displacement?

Lelt me know when you decide and send me description/details for the Guide to Scottish Visitor Moorings

- Nick
 
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If you want to bring money into the local economy you really need of think about free visitors moorings and not try ripping off the visitors.

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Bit of a bum if there is nothing for the visitors to spend their money on that would benefit the local economy ... and moorings do cost money to maintain ...

It was quite nice for us at Beaulieu (Solent) to "only" be charged 14.50 for a 30'er on the piles this weekend. If we'd gone into the marina it would have worked out at £30+ ... and the only difference - foot access to the onshore facilities...
 
Hope this news letter helps explain.
PHA NEWSLETTER

To bring you up to date with what is happening with your Association we have decided to issue a newsletter with the annual fees reminder letter. So here it is:-

2006 Activities
1/ We published and distributed our brochure “A Guide to Visitors Afloat” - The new edition for 2007 will be available in Hotels, shops etc shortly.
2/ Plockton & District Community Council’s 5 year effort to raise funds and establish a deepwater pontoon at the Stone Pier finally came to fruition when the new pontoon was installed in May. This will be managed by the PHA when the legal and financial details have been finalised. As an Association Member you may use the pontoon for loading stores and passengers etc and tie your dinghy to it for visits ashore with no additional charges. No overnight mooring is allowed and yachts should use the designated areas and not obstruct the fishing or seal trip boats. Permanent dinghy moorings at either pontoon do require additional fees to be paid.
3/ Construction of a new Mooring Barge was started and should be completed early in 2007.
4/ The Royal Highland Yacht Club was assisted with arrangements for its 125th Anniversary Cruise to Plockton in July which was well attended and regarded as a success by all involved.

2007 Activities
1/ Four new Visitor’s Moorings suitable for larger yachts have been laid between main mooring area and the Plockton Rocks.
2/ A single large mooring for the Gordonstoun yacht has been laid in deep water off Rubha Mor.
(The above moorings should generate income for the Association and help to pay for maintenance of the new pontoon etc)
3/ Making arrangements for diving inspections and repairs as necessary to the existing visitors moorings.
4/ Maintenance of the Tidal Pontoon
5/ Changing the status of the PHA into a Community Interest Company to make the best use of grants and legal protection afforded to such a body.
6/ Continuing our efforts to find the funding to install a water supply to the new pontoon. (Royal Highland Y.C. gave us a generous donation of £500 towards the project.)

Diving and Mooring Handling
During the formation of the Plockton Harbour Association CIC (The Association) when the responsibilities of the directors were outlined it became very apparent that we could not continue with our current arrangements with respect to laying of moorings.  Health and Safety is the main issue and the undertaking of preliminary risk assessments highlights the problems associated with both the handling of the hardware, chains and anchors etc, and of course diving.  We are, as an aging committee, also short of manpower to undertake work on private moorings and will, in future, restrict our activities to the maintenance of the assets of the Association, vis the three trots of visitor moorings and the two pontoons.  All but minor maintenance work on these assets will be scheduled by the CIC committee but carried out by third parties holding the appropriate qualifications and experience.  The fees charged for both visitor moorings and members moorings will have to reflect this - hopefully current income and income from the new visitor moorings will generate most of the required revenue. 
Members requiring moorings to be laid or serviced will have to make their own arrangements.  Many members will no doubt wish to undertake annual inspections of surface equipment and risers themselves but should they wish for assistance for the heavier work Andy Foggon of West Coast Diving Services of Lochcarron has indicated that he is available and indeed will be used by the Association for maintenance and inspections as required - details are:-
 
West Coast Diving Services
Andy Foggon (01520 722614 or 07774 149828)
 
Useful addresses:-
 
FPM Henderson in Glasgow. (Mooring tackle supplier used in recent years by the Association)
 
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If you want to bring money into the local economy you really need of think about free visitors moorings and not try ripping off the visitors.

[/ QUOTE ] Cliff has a point.

This was the whole idea behind the original HIDB moorings, and I think it was a good idea. Plockton has plenty of bars, restaurants and shops for people to spend money in, so if free moorings mean an increase in yachts coming in then it would be a good deal.

Otherwise, how much has laying these moorings cost and what are ongoing costs? Perhaps youshould just look at recovering your costs over the first (say) two years and keeping charges at that level.

- Nick
 
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