vistor mooring fees

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In Plockton we have just put down a new trot of moorings for visitors 25 t /13mt ,can you let me know what the average price charged for overnight moorings is for that spec around the country, as we dont want to overcharge. many thanks in advance

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Didn't anyone do a Feasabilty study and plan ? Seems trange to install berthing and have no idea of fee structure ...

Given that facilities and services may be ,imited ashore .. then surely the fees are going to be low to attract the boats in ... instead of anchoring. Plus with increased visitors maybe a bit of infrastructure can develop ?

Would have thought that most yotties wouldn't mind walk ashore at around the 8 - 10 pound mark for up to 30ft ... as an idea .. with more facilities of course that can go up in line with developments.
 
Last time I was in Plockton was a few of years ago. Was accosted for the £5:00 so says "we are not staying" - just stopped for a look as there was no way I would pay £5:00 for a mooring with no facilities ashore. Nice old dear says don't worry about the £5:00 it goes to the council - we don't see any of it. Anyway turned out we (2 boats) stayed 3 nights and dropped a bit on the wrong side of £500 between us into the local hotel, bars and shops. So much for a "free" mooring! However had someone tried to charge us we would have moved on and spent our beer tokens elsewhere.

Why pay for a mooring AND pay again for the beer. I would rather go elsewhere where there were "free" moorings and spend my beer tokens there (Probably costs me more than the mooring but it is the principle that counts for me.
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Lamlash (Arran) visitor moorings were £10 a night last year... I have not been this season so it may have gone up. The moorings were laid by the local sailing club and appear to have been a big success judging by summer occupancy.
 
The improvements to mooring and associated facilities on the west coast is a great way to attract sailors and in so doing provide an added point of interest for shore visitors. Yes, there are times when anchoring is preferred, i.e. uncertainty over the ground tackle, but a known well maintained available mooring is always a welcome sight.

We are hoping to visit Plockton this summer and would pay a reasonable sum, £10 or so a night for use of a mooring, appreciating the cost of laying these, the on-going maintenance, annual licence fee and the cost of collection (assuming you'll have some, even if it is just printing tickets, tender/outboard/fuel etc.) For a number of reasons, I would encourage a turn-around of boats, rather than a boat staying 3 for 2, perhaps a two tier fee for boats say less than 30', which on the whole will have fewer people aboard, similiar to Tobermory's mooring charge system.

Good luck with these ventures and please let us know what is decided.
 
Lamlash is a bit different because all the sensible anchoring area has been taken up with moorings.

Or - have these new moorings at Plockton been placed right in the middle of the best anchoring area, as seems to so often be the case?

- Nick
 
This has jogged my memory. I spent two nights on a mooring at Lamlash and remember thinking that £10 a night was a bit steep, having just paid what I think was about £12 to tie against the harbour wall at Port Patrick. We would have anchored, but wanted a secure mooring on which to leave the boat unattended while we skipped up Goat Fell (and I did not have a Rocna, not to mention seized the outboard and the long row). On reflection, £10 isn't a bad price for a secure mooring. Consider the cost of a mooring for a 11.5m boat in the Menai Straits:

Initial cost for gear and laying mooring: 1800.00
Annualized cost over 9 years: 200.00
Capital charge/opportunity cost, say: 200.00
Annual charge by council: 240.00
Maintenance of mooring: 160.00
Total annual cost: 800.00
Number of nights on mooring: 100
Cost per night of own mooring: 8.00

I agree with Cliff that it would be nice if the cost of visitors' moorings could be absorbed into the local economy, but how is the yacht club going to recover it's costs from the local businesses?
 
Is this not an example of what is so wrong with the marine industry? What's wrong with charging a price reflecting cost industry typical ROCI and overheads rather than "what can I get"? What income was the business plan for the funding/outlay based?
 
Plockton is quite beautiful - do go and visit esp by boat - shame I only got there by road, but I was on my way to a liveaboard diving holiday off the Western Isles.

We got blown out one day (a very light breeze, actually) and sent off on a bus to some not-Highland Games because Captain Backwash wanted to Roger the Cabin Girl.. Oh, life in the raw!

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Lamlash (Arran) visitor moorings were £10 a night last year... I have not been this season so it may have gone up. The moorings were laid by the local sailing club and appear to have been a big success judging by summer occupancy.

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Hi Cliff, thanks for your comments. In Plockton as a Harbour Assocation we have over the past five years clearer the bay of all old moorings (Engine blocks, wire rope, crown wheels, old tyres filled with concrete etc) at our own cost so that people can anchor and not find themselves in need of a local diver. We have also installed all trots and pontoons and continuing maintenance at our own cost no one is paid for their time as a commitee we do this on a voluntary basis. All moneies raised go back in to maintenance and approx £2000 per year we give to Plockton Community Council to pay for a village officer which is of benefit to locals and visitors alike.

We formed a Harbour Assocation approx 10 years ago to enable us to have the sea bed rights from the Crown as we had wind of a private entrepreneur who was considering the same which would have resulted in over priced charges for everone concerned.

You also may like to know that the bay also comes under the jurisdiction of Highland Regional Council who have the right to charge for anchoring. As yet they have not inforced this, and we as a harbour assocation would never dream of doing so and fight any moves in that direction.

I hope this helps to explain somewhat and look forward to visits this summer from any fourm members.

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Only one poontoon, the rest are from subs and mooring fees. As matter of intrest how would you go about paying for the cost of divers to inspect moorings ,poontoon ground takle, insurance, boats, fuel, time, replacement costs,
The trot of moorings laid last weekend cost £4,600 and £1,000 for the landing craft .
In all honesty its a catch 22 moorings laid =mooring fees = moorings laid.
OH bye the bye plans are a foot for a shower block/toilets washing /drying and small workshop.
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[/ QUOTE ]But talking to folk who use Lamlash, very few it seems actually pay /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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presumably, then, they are just walking bye the honesty box at the pier end. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
Very surprised to read about this, as the anchoring is excellent and would be most unhappy if the visitor moorings reduced the available area for anchoring.

IMHO any visitor moorings should be available free for senior citizens and boats without windlasses.
 
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