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I'm not sure what happened before DSC, but without the need for MMSI number, how many actually bothered to register with Ofcom? Then there's those who's rigs pre-date Ofcom (BT used to administer radio didn't they?) Surely the licence is for the operator anyway not the set - so is there actually a legal requirement to register a boat fitted with VHF? I appreciate that it's in the owner's best interest to do so in order for coastguard/RNLI etc know what they're looking for, but that's no guarantee that they do is it?

Also, I believe that unlike amateur radio, the call-sign is attached to the boat not the operator and thus as boats get sold on, renamed etc it must get even more of a nightmare!
Even before DSC, it was a legal requirement to have a ship radio licence as well as an authority to operate -- two documents, loosely analogous to a car tax disc and a driving licence. A particularly good analogy because the ship licence, for a while, was a round paper thing the same size as a tax disc!

The "authorities" used to be much more keen on prosecuting people for not having ship radio licences than they are now (because it involved the thing dearest to the stony heart of government (money)), but they realised that there were so few licences (and even fewer people deliberately breaking the law) that the ludicrous panoply of bureacracy involved was costing more than it generated. I suppose theycould have increased the licence fee to pay for the costs of enforcing it -- and thereby increased the incentive to evade it -- but for once, sanity reigned and they just scrapped the fee.

But this is the british civil service we are talking about, so complete sense could not be allowed to go unchecked! So they left the legal requirement for a licence in place! So now we have to have licence, and can get fined for not doing so, even though the licence itself is free. There will of course be a fine bonanza when people forget to "renew" these pointless computer printouts, but at least it will mean that any idiot who thinks it is funny to call a boat "Mayday" will get caught and fined under the "lack of licence" law quite quickly.
 

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Over and out used to be used in days long ago when the PTT was not a button but a switch
This was said by the speaker of the final transmission to remind themselves to switch the transmit switch back to receive prior to finishing the transmission...the out was to end the transmission

Not the explanation I have ever heard of.

Both words are completely valid radio pro-words when used on their own.

"Over" - means over to you, the conversation is ongoing.

"Out" - means I have finished, nothing more to be said

"Roger" means "I understand", note that it does not mean that anything will be done. ie. "Turn Starboard","Roger" then promptly ignoring the request is valid.

"Wilco" means " I will co-operate", ie. not only to I understand the request but I will actually carry it out.

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Roger is not a marine pro-word, nor is it in the International Marine Vocabulary

"Roger" is a standard approved proword within HMCG's operations, and stems from it's allowance under the CSOC (Coast Station Operator's Certificate) issued under ITU regulations. It means "last transmission received satisfactorily". It doesn't mean "understand" - you could then ask the sender to clarify, it merely means you have received what they said. As others have said, it doesn't imply actions will be taken. It is also different to "copied", which is used when a tx is intercepted between two other stations.

Wait till you're all having to use IMO prowords like "answer" before you give the answer to a question :)
 

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calling on vhf

just finished my vhf course, when callling a marina )( who are most likely listening, use 1x then your own 1x. when calling someone and your not sure if their listening use 3x 2x over.
mind you since the course i have found everyone use mobiles on the river so have had no chance to use my vhf radio. will have to find someone within marina to practice.
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Yes. Ofcom won't give you a station license.

According to the instructor on my VHF course, there was a catamaran in Cowes whose license application kept being rejected. The boat was called Wet Pussy :)

Pete

There's a dive boat working out of Porthkerris (Catamaran) called Cornish Pussy, shes often on the radio to Falmouth coastguard letting them know what they're up to.
 

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Yes, it's different from military, naval, aviation, police, ambulance, fire service and CB procedure. No, the coastguards don't all invariably use it. No it doesn't make 100% perfectly complete sense. And no, you probably won't get fined if you get it wrong.

But it's the way it is.

http://www.moviesounds.com/redoct/crazyivan.mp3 is a nice incoming text sound on one's smartphone ;->

Get the whole lot at http://www.moviesounds.com/redoct.html, including http://www.moviesounds.com/redoct/verify.mp3

I tend to 'read back' the important things (partly to help me remember), so often sign off with "$FOOBAR marina, proceeding berth delta two, port side to, thank you, $MYBOAT, out."
 

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