Tranona
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Not sure it is a hangover. That is what I thought, but VicS suggests it is new(ish) and you can't complete an on line application form without it. See his post above.
Vessel gross tonnage
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Refueler
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Not sure it is a hangover. That is what I thought, but VicS suggests it is new(ish) and you can't complete an on line application form without it. See his post above.
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It is a hangover as Shipping has used it since time immemorial ....
As to the form - that's easy .... put a form on the web-site that copies the paper form ... if it asks a number in a box - that's what it will do. Form writers on sites usually have little understanding of the reason for the boxes !!
Anyway - GRT is not new to Radio Licencing - any Ships Sparks can tell you that. The VHF station licence is most likely derived from the larger more comprehensive commercial.
Having heard some crackers from Ofcom on the phone in the past - and other authoriti9es I might add, I don't have a lot of faith in many of their spoken answers ! Especially when I found they cancelled my Station licence - in their words it had been already allocated to another. So I call them after receiving the letter. Operator refuses to divulge who had my call-sign, considering I'd had it for nigh on 8 years. She kept claiming Data Protection Act. Finally it twigged .. I said - Ok if I give you the name of the other boat and address - will that help you answer ? Turned out THEY had issued 2 licences for my boat.
So I then was allowed to cancel one and keep other. Guess what - they cancelled the wrong b***y one !!
Not sure it is a hangover. That is what I thought, but VicS suggests it is new(ish) and you can't complete an on line application form without it. See his post above.
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It is a hangover as Shipping has used it since time immemorial ....
As to the form - that's easy .... put a form on the web-site that copies the paper form ... if it asks a number in a box - that's what it will do. Form writers on sites usually have little understanding of the reason for the boxes !!
Anyway - GRT is not new to Radio Licencing - any Ships Sparks can tell you that. The VHF station licence is most likely derived from the larger more comprehensive commercial.
Having heard some crackers from Ofcom on the phone in the past - and other authoriti9es I might add, I don't have a lot of faith in many of their spoken answers ! Especially when I found they cancelled my Station licence - in their words it had been already allocated to another. So I call them after receiving the letter. Operator refuses to divulge who had my call-sign, considering I'd had it for nigh on 8 years. She kept claiming Data Protection Act. Finally it twigged .. I said - Ok if I give you the name of the other boat and address - will that help you answer ? Turned out THEY had issued 2 licences for my boat.
So I then was allowed to cancel one and keep other. Guess what - they cancelled the wrong b***y one !!
JackBartlett
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No, Refueller, I wasn't referring to your post, though you did say "I can say this with reasonable feeling of being correct - considering that I deal with ships every day of my work."
It's a bit like saying "I use a computer every day so of course I know how it works". The two separate bits of the statement may each be perfectly true, but neither of them guarantees the other.
To be honest, you do sound (to me) as though you know what you are talking about -- at least *you* didn't have to Google for an answer and then cut and paste a chunk of Wikipedia, unattributed, as though it were your own!
Not like some!
It's a bit like saying "I use a computer every day so of course I know how it works". The two separate bits of the statement may each be perfectly true, but neither of them guarantees the other.
To be honest, you do sound (to me) as though you know what you are talking about -- at least *you* didn't have to Google for an answer and then cut and paste a chunk of Wikipedia, unattributed, as though it were your own!
Not like some!
Refueler
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No, Refueller, I wasn't referring to your post, though you did say "I can say this with reasonable feeling of being correct - considering that I deal with ships every day of my work."
It's a bit like saying "I use a computer every day so of course I know how it works". The two separate bits of the statement may each be perfectly true, but neither of them guarantees the other.
To be honest, you do sound (to me) as though you know what you are talking about -- at least *you* didn't have to Google for an answer and then cut and paste a chunk of Wikipedia, unattributed, as though it were your own!
Not like some!
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Niet problema ... Uudacha
No, Refueller, I wasn't referring to your post, though you did say "I can say this with reasonable feeling of being correct - considering that I deal with ships every day of my work."
It's a bit like saying "I use a computer every day so of course I know how it works". The two separate bits of the statement may each be perfectly true, but neither of them guarantees the other.
To be honest, you do sound (to me) as though you know what you are talking about -- at least *you* didn't have to Google for an answer and then cut and paste a chunk of Wikipedia, unattributed, as though it were your own!
Not like some!
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Niet problema ... Uudacha
Wiggo
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at least *you* didn't have to Google for an answer and then cut and paste a chunk of Wikipedia, unattributed, as though it were your own!
Not like some!
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Ouch! At least I have actually done the calculations to work out my own GT, and worked out why my commercial YM ticket restriction of 200 GT equates to around 24-25m of boat.
at least *you* didn't have to Google for an answer and then cut and paste a chunk of Wikipedia, unattributed, as though it were your own!
Not like some!
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Ouch! At least I have actually done the calculations to work out my own GT, and worked out why my commercial YM ticket restriction of 200 GT equates to around 24-25m of boat.
Tranona
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I have now checked my details on the Ofcom site. They are correct, except that they show GRT as 6. This is the estimated Thames Tonnage which is how boats of my vintage were often described. I got the licence about 25 years ago, so don't remember what was on the form. However, I did know what the GRT was as it is Part 1 and I have the Blue Book with all the calculations. So I can only assume that the form had a box labled "tonnage". So Ofcom may have replaced one useless measure with another!
ADLS
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you take the angle of the dangle and then add the heat of the meat, take away the weight of the water and halve the time of day.
Or for a more accurite process write weights of 1 to 10 on 10 pieces of paper put them in a hat and choose one.
Isn't noted on your boat registration papers.
Or for a more accurite process write weights of 1 to 10 on 10 pieces of paper put them in a hat and choose one.
Isn't noted on your boat registration papers.