Up or down?

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Since the forum is apparently in the mood for arguing about such important matters such as how to pronouncify river names, perhaps we could revisit the question as to whether sailing on the Wallet from Harwich to Bradwell is 'up' or 'down'? I know what I think, and will stick pins into effigies of anyone who disagrees.
 
I am sure this has been discussed/argued about before!!
I always think down as - if you have any sense - you are going downtide. But, then the other way is down as well??
I know one always travels up to London so I suppose that it should be up.
 
As others, I like to work the tides so when the tide is flooding and going up, flowing from Harwich to Bradwell, and I am going with the tide, it follows that I am going up as well. The same follows all the way to Dover, but if I go round the corner and carry on westwards, I hope I've timed it to catch the first of the ebb and I'm headed down channel. Isn't it obvious?

Any effigy of me is by now so well perforated, you'll have to come up with a worse threat to change my mind, which was made up on this matter more than 50 years ago.

Peter.
 
I regret 'tis obvious BUT why do you think the Wallet intends to take you up to Bradwell? Sure it might do now but do you think it was called the 'Wallet' because it led to Bradwell? Now that is a real question!?!
 
I regret 'tis obvious BUT why do you think the Wallet intends to take you up to Bradwell? Sure it might do now but do you think it was called the 'Wallet' because it led to Bradwell? Now that is a real question!?!

i have it via personal experience that MDL in Suffolk has consistently dented yachtsmen's wallets far more than Bradwell could ever aspire too
 
Up for me but the word down gets a lot of bad press where 'up' normally gets all the glory.

Our wind being mainly SW , meaning it's downhill sailing from Bradwell to Harwich so it must be down. So that's a good thing for down for a change.

Yes. Definitely down to Harwich and up to Bradwell.
 
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Well, in barge-speak 'Up Swin" was Up to London, so that would possibly mean Harwich to Bradwell would be Up the Wallet...
 
I remember Colin Jarman deriding me for referring to sailing NE 'up' the Swin, 'up' on the chart. As he was usually right in any argument I had with him, I changed my ways. Up now means up-tide.
Usually.
But if I sailed from Ramsgate to the Solent that would be down Channel even though it's up tide as far as Dungeness.....
 
broadly north = up
broadly south = down
in my simple view of the world
ie as a manner of speaking, rather than from any scientific perspective
 
Well, I've finished the hoovering and have come to the conclusion that there is a gravitational anomaly, probably caused by the heavyweight intellects in Jaywick, and it is uphill both ways.
 
But one goes UP to Cambridge, or are sent DOWN if sufficiently evil minded.

I believe that an uncle of mine had that distinction. He was supposed to have gone on writing cheques as long as there were any left in the cheque-book and the landlady didn't get paid. He became a barrister, briefly.
 
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