Uninhabited Islands,Any explorers ? :)

tim_ber said:
Not islands, but I saw video (maybe youtube) of some people that landed on Russian lighthouses and looked around - looked VERY spooky - all had been gutted and there was talk of radiation risk (don't know why).
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I believe Russian buoys for use in remote areas used a radioisotope generator to power their lights. Possibly remote lighthouses are the same?

(nb a radioisotope generator is not the same thing as a nuclear reactor)

Pete
 
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We have a sweet little Island about 4nm off Fremantle called Carnac Island. It is uninhabited but a nice day will see 4 or 5 pleasure boats anchored near the eastern shore.
The water is clear with beautiful snorkelling of lots of fish and soft coral. The beach has a resident population of Southern Sea Lions which you avoid on land. They are however very inquisative and curious if you are swimming. They can give you a bit of a start if this big black shape sneaks up on you. I had one surface and look at me his face only 1 metre away. Being a coward I did back away a little.
Anyway the island itself is another story. About 1 km by about .5km rising about 100ft in the middle with just low scrub. There are thousands of sea gull nests there. Unfortunately there are also huge numbers of Tiger Snakes. (about as venomous as the worst anywhere in the world.) There is a walking track across the island and I tried to cross it once. It was still day and there was a constant rustling sound. After about 20 metres there was a snake lying right across the track. I changed my mind and retreated. According to David Attenborough many of these snakes have one or both eyes missing. The sea gulls get their revenge. Blindness does not seem to bother the snakes so much as the sea gull eggs and chick are easy to find by smell. Also explains the huge number of the snakes. Also explains why it is a sanctuary and not inhabited. olewill
 
We anchored off this unihabited island last summer, no sign of life. We had heard that a wild man lived there, but it turned out Scillypete was at home on St Mary.;)

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William_H said:
We have a sweet little Island about 4nm off Fremantle called Carnac Island. It is uninhabited but a nice day will see 4 or 5 pleasure boats anchored near the eastern shore.
The water is clear with beautiful snorkelling of lots of fish and soft coral. The beach has a resident population of Southern Sea Lions which you avoid on land. They are however very inquisative and curious if you are swimming. They can give you a bit of a start if this big black shape sneaks up on you. I had one surface and look at me his face only 1 metre away. Being a coward I did back away a little.
Anyway the island itself is another story. About 1 km by about .5km rising about 100ft in the middle with just low scrub. There are thousands of sea gull nests there. Unfortunately there are also huge numbers of Tiger Snakes. (about as venomous as the worst anywhere in the world.) There is a walking track across the island and I tried to cross it once. It was still day and there was a constant rustling sound. After about 20 metres there was a snake lying right across the track. I changed my mind and retreated. According to David Attenborough many of these snakes have one or both eyes missing. The sea gulls get their revenge. Blindness does not seem to bother the snakes so much as the sea gull eggs and chick are easy to find by smell. Also explains the huge number of the snakes. Also explains why it is a sanctuary and not inhabited. olewill
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Sounds like a great place to go as long as your wearing snake proof clothing :)
 
We have stopped at least a dozen uninhabited islands in the Med and Caribbean. It's very unusual to find one not in territorial waters becuase almost all islands have been claimed or have disputed claims. My guess would be you might find some in the Southern ocean.
 
KellysEye said:
We have stopped at least a dozen uninhabited islands in the Med and Caribbean. It's very unusual to find one not in territorial waters becuase almost all islands have been claimed or have disputed claims. My guess would be you might find some in the Southern ocean.
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I tend to agree with you its very unusual to find an island thats not been claimed. Perhaps i might as well be reaching for the stars... :)

Hey we all know a steps song about that ? :D

Just thought id mentioned it,i have had that particular tune sailing around in the vast seas of my head for about 5 hours now :D
 
sarabande said:
yes, it was sprayed with acetic acid. Porton Down used to place a dozen sheep on the island each spring in the old days, and see how many were left alive by mid-summer. To start with, there were not many. (An old stamping ground for me in the 1960s)


There are many farms with 'anthrax pits' where carcases from casualties were buried deeply (anthrax wasa fairly common animal disease not so long ago.) MAFF used to have maps, but I think they were discontinued and lost in Defra.

Only a few very old farmers can remember where some of the pits are; and the bacillus is understood to last for forty years....
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Munching and sucking my way through a jar of beetroot, acetic acid on the ingredients label.

Terrible stuff for staining ones clothing mind you!, my fingertips are still purple as if id been de bugged of lice and ran my fingers through my hair with the purple iodide or iodine they used to rub into our hair still wet :)
 
You may already have seen the item in the Daily Wail, but someone else(or you?)was asking the same question and answers given were in Scotland and the Isles;

One of them is in dispute as to ownership, it being claimed by ("Captain Calamity")Stuart Hill, and another island owner Mark King on PAPA STOUR.
Mr Hill has declared the island as an independant state called FORVIK under old Norse law; he is resident only a few days a year.

These islands are apparently registered in 2001 census as having only one resident, but is said to be misleading:-

Forewick Holm, in the Sound of Papa in the Shetland Islands,2.5acres

Innis Chonan , is an island in Loch Awe in Argyll and Bute,has holiday apartments,but no current resident proprietor.

Eilean Donan, in Loch Duick in the Western Highlands.

Shuna Island, off the Mull of Kintyre;used to have up to 70 residents ,has holiday cottages but no permanent residents now.

Sanda , a 400acre island also off Kintyre Owned by a Swedish Businessman,has a seasonal hotel,but no permanent residents.

Vaila ,lies south of the Western peninsula of Shetland has just 2 permanent residents.


That's just a quick summary of the reply given by R Allenby of Inverness.


ianat182
 
ianat182 said:
You may already have seen the item in the Daily Wail, but someone else(or you?)was asking the same question and answers given were in Scotland and the Isles;

One of them is in dispute as to ownership, it being claimed by ("Captain Calamity")Stuart Hill, and another island owner Mark King on PAPA STOUR.
Mr Hill has declared the island as an independant state called FORVIK under old Norse law; he is resident only a few days a year.

These islands are apparently registered in 2001 census as having only one resident, but is said to be misleading:-

Forewick Holm, in the Sound of Papa in the Shetland Islands,2.5acres

Innis Chonan , is an island in Loch Awe in Argyll and Bute,has holiday apartments,but no current resident proprietor.

Eilean Donan, in Loch Duick in the Western Highlands.

Shuna Island, off the Mull of Kintyre;used to have up to 70 residents ,has holiday cottages but no permanent residents now.

Sanda , a 400acre island also off Kintyre Owned by a Swedish Businessman,has a seasonal hotel,but no permanent residents.

Vaila ,lies south of the Western peninsula of Shetland has just 2 permanent residents.


That's just a quick summary of the reply given by R Allenby of Inverness.


ianat182
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Hello ianat182

Unless any of them fall outside the 12 Nautical Mile Limit established by the UN such claims cannot be taken seriously tbh.They might earn a few quid from the novelty of it ie souveniers unless the island is large enough for a decent size population which could make quite a fortune for the property owner if they can claim any rights giving a degree of autonomy instead of being A "Crown dependance" as was or is Forvick.

I believe he was looking into selling passports and offering a limited citizenship where they did not have the right to live on the island of Forvick.


How any country is defined should be by its people not present day inaptly determined physical borders.if anyone views the policies of another country as more apt to thier own beliefs they should be able to walk in that direction with no obstacles in thier path. In this view there is a far more credible case for Scotland and its coastal waters and all its inherant and abundant resources.

I think it takes 100.000 people to want to be part of a new country then they get listened to.
 
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Ben Dockrell 22 said:
[it's] very unusual to find an island thats not been claimed.
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So unusual that there aren't any.

I am fairly sure. I did a read up of this and the wikipedia entry about "Micronations" is a good place to start.

When satellites can survey the earth at very high resolution, the simple fact is that there are no "undiscovered" bits of land anywhere on earth.

All the fly-speck bits of rock are claimed by the nations of the world.
 
"Terrortorial Waters" as qouted from wiki.


Rights over the continental shelf

Articles 77 to 81 define the rights of a country over its continental shelf.

A coastal nation has control of all resources on or under its continental shelf, living or not, but no control over any living organisms above the shelf that are beyond its exclusive economic zone. This gives it the right to conduct petroleum drilling works and lay submarine cables or pipelines in its continental shelf.


Just something to think about, "above the shelf" means the sea and air ? This would mean the area above the shelf is better defined as the "free seas" also termed "The high seas" am i right or have i missed a bit or bits ?
 
Because the were treating the area for anthrax contamination id say its unlikely they removed topsoil, they just carried out the decontamination process which may also have provided them with scientific data determining if and how effective the decontamination process was.


oh and busun higgs :p
 
Ben Dockrell 22 said:
Because the were treating the area for anthrax contamination id say its unlikely they removed topsoil, they just carried out the decontamination process which may also have provided them with scientific data determining if and how effective the decontamination process was.


oh and busun higgs :p
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Apparently some was removed...

From Wikipedia:
Starting in 1986 a determined effort was made to decontaminate the island, with 280 tonnes of formaldehyde solution diluted in seawater being sprayed over all 196 hectares of the island and the worst-contaminated topsoil around the dispersal site being removed.

Removed to where?
 
Aren't we overlooking somewhere?

Presumably the search here, is for somewhere remote enough to exclude the probability of being bothered by...anyone?

One place springs to mind...

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Of course, you'll have to hurry...clearly there are already yacht and helicopter crews, vying for kingship...

...not sure why, though. Did they have it in mind to start a guano-fertilizer factory?
 
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