UK yacht registration for any Tom, Dick and Harry?

[rogerthebodger]

My main point is NOT abut insurance but its about the freedom of Personal choice

It is about what ant to what extent a private origination has the right to say who you must pay money to and.

The laws of the country can define what to society is acceptable to protect the citizens and residents in the country.

i left UK 40 years ago as I was getting told by all kind of NGO what I must do and what I could no do and I personally which to make my own choices

Yes South Africa had its problems but that changed 30 years ago and here are still chainages due to the authorities over reach but there are laws and constitution that lays down what he state can and cannot do. Thes rights just need to be enforced/

In most countries in the free world you have the right to vote and who to vote for or not to vote this allows you to chose who will make the laws you must comply with

ome countries the citizens either don't have a choice or the votes are predetermined in some way

If you don't stand up for your rights and loos then ts you who loose out

If you are happy with the current lot good for you but watch out as over time you can loose out/

Watch out for state controls in the private boating and the monolopisipic practices by commersial organisations

 

[Fr J Hackett]

My main point is NOT abut insurance but its about the freedom of Personal choice

It is about what ant to what extent a private origination has the right to say who you must pay money to and.

The laws of the country can define what to society is acceptable to protect the citizens and residents in the country.

i left UK 40 years ago as I was getting told by all kind of NGO what I must do and what I could no do and I personally which to make my own choices

Yes South Africa had its problems but that changed 30 years ago and here are still chainages due to the authorities over reach but there are laws and constitution that lays down what he state can and cannot do. Thes rights just need to be enforced/

In most countries in the free world you have the right to vote and who to vote for or not to vote this allows you to chose who will make the laws you must comply with

ome countries the citizens either don't have a choice or the votes are predetermined in some way

If you don't stand up for your rights and loos then ts you who loose out

There are situations where the rights of the individual have to be secondary to the needs and safety of the many. Mr Spock expressed it well 1. 12 minutes in. If you wish to live in a society with others then you need to accept that.

 

[rogerthebodger]

There are situations where the rights of the individual have to be secondary to the needs and safety of the many. Mr Spock expressed it well 1. 12 minutes in. If you wish to live in a society with others then you need to accept that.

I know that clip from star trek very well

Yes I know that but society also need to consider that the individual also has rights and must accept that the indervidal has rights

The basic laws or sociality need to accept that


It the government of the day that puts those in place and also put in place restrictions on NGO's to also protect sociality from abuses by mainly commissial originations that the NGO's put in place to try to protect their position

This i the reason for acts like monopoly legislation and consumer protection legislation like the Consumer Protection Act I posted a link above

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Individuals that don't want to live on their own in caves need to understand that sometimes societies rights trump those of the individual.

 

[billskip]

Why is there only one monopolies commission.....

 

[Poignard]

It should make no odds at all but Greece and Spain started differentiating EU and non-EU flags in a way that makes it awkward for EU VAT paid boats with UK flags. Hopefully this will get sorted out and won’t spread to other countries. it sort of creates a confusing status in officials‘ minds.

Yes, thanks.

That was one of the reasons for my thinking of re-registering but, so far, French officialdom has shown no interest. If it does get awkward I will re-register under the Irish flag; as a friend of mine in the same yard did.

He died recently and his widow had no difficulty selling the yacht, with its Irish registration, in France.

 

[Poignard]

I've got a pre vat boat with a notarised letter from the Harbour master that it was in Valencia on B day. I've not heard of anyone in Spain having VAT problems recently.

I have a similar letter from a HM in France.

 

[RupertW]

Yes, thanks.

That was one of the reasons for my thinking of re-registering but, so far, French officialdom has shown no interest. If it does get awkward I will re-register under the Irish flag; as a friend of mine in the same yard did.

He died recently and his widow had no difficulty selling the yacht, with its Irish registration, in France.

That is interesting. I thought Irish registry was very hard to get if you weren’t an Irish resident.

 

[Irish Rover]

That is interesting. I thought Irish registry was very hard to get if you weren’t an Irish resident.

Open to citizens of EU states, UK, Canada, NZ and a couple of others. Similar procedure to UK Part 1 but not as straightforward because you have to deal with a few different Government agencies.

 

[Poignard]

That is interesting. I thought Irish registry was very hard to get if you weren’t an Irish resident.

My friend employed a company in Ireland who arranged everything for a price of, if I remember correctly, 900 euros.

You could do it yourself, the officials in the Irish Registry were helpful when I was considering re-flagging.

 

[RupertW]

Open to citizens of EU states, UK, Canada, NZ and a couple of others. Similar procedure to UK Part 1 but not as straightforward because you have to deal with a few different Government agencies.

Ah, I was probably reading about the lack of an SSR type. I’d hate to start putting the paperwork together for a Part 1, but maybe worth it as an alternative to Polish which is our other option if we find it will be easier than SSR when we return to EU waters.

 

[Irish Rover]

Ah, I was probably reading about the lack of an SSR type. I’d hate to start putting the paperwork together for a Part 1, but maybe worth it as an alternative to Polish which is our other option if we find it will be easier than SSR when we return to EU waters.

Yeah, no SSR type. Has been talked about and even promised many times over the years but never happened. Anyway a leisure register would most probably have a residence condition the same as the UK.
I did the full registration 12/13 years ago via email from Türkiye. As I said it's a bit more complicated because there isn't a one stop shop registry like UK or Jersey which I've also used.

 

[wonkywinch]

Individuals that don't want to live on their own in caves need to understand that sometimes societies rights trump those of the individual.

And there are plenty who think they can dance around the regulations that govern us all.

 

[billskip]

And there are plenty who think they can dance around the regulations that govern us all.

And they get away with it, and we get our nose rubbed in it, have you read today's comic.....