Tyresome question....

[Refueler]

Oh ... on the subject of Russian Tyres ... as you can imagine - they are not so easily available here now since the Ukraine - Russia war.

But I don't know what your reason is for decrying Russian tyres - but it is widely held here that if you want tyres for off-road / winter - then Russian tyres are a good bet.
If you base it on standard road tyres - then I accept that there may be a case ... but I run all season M+S / three peaks tyres on all vehicles to avoid the swapping of tyres 2x a year ... as I no longer rallye my needs have revised.

 

[Refueler]

So you are out resident expert in the chemical composition of tyres.....great.....and you wouldn’t comment on any other field outside your professional expertise...I see....mmm.....so....all sixty nine thousand seven hundred and sixty six posts are on tyre chemistry

Oh c'mon - that's a bit unfair.

We all have opinions and sometimes they get the better of us ...

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Boy oh Boy ...

With all respect for your knowledge which I have not questioned in any form.

But you still sit on the misconception that I claimed Specification XXX will be different per region - which I DID NOT STATE. I never claimed that specification XXX tyre in USA was different from same specification XXX in Europe ..... my comment was a generalisation ...

I have not in any form tried to give impression I am a Tyre guhru ... far from it ... if you go back to original posts they were all as info I had .. and from driving cars ... my experience of driving cars in many countrys of the world ... the USA along with other countries in South America - I experienced squealing of tyres in situations that with my UK / EU cars never did.

Thank you for the fuels comment ... pity that some others don't think the same ... their problem not mine !!

Does this help, taken from post #26:
"
It was for years that USA tyres were said to have more 'rubber' in the compound to that of EU / UK .. and that helped cause them to squeal at lower cornering speed than EU / UK tyres.

Maybe the difference has been reduced now - but the USA compound was fact."
There is a clear indication of comparison whether that's just sloppy writing or intended I don't know.

The danger lies in words like "said" who said it? The formulation , compounding of a tyre manufactured by Michelin will be different to one manufactured by Pirelli or Bridgestone ( there will be great similarities though) However a tyre manufactured in some nondescript Russian or Indian or even some Chinese plants is likely to be very different.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

So you are out resident expert in the chemical composition of tyres.....great.....and you wouldn’t comment on any other field outside your professional expertise...I see....mmm.....so....all sixty nine thousand seven hundred and sixty six posts are on tyre chemistry

As usual you are off on another fantasy driven tract of your own. Try again.

 

[Bouba]

As usual you are off on another fantasy driven tract of your own. Try again.

Is that a composition of a tyre compound.....or the components of a word salad ?

 

[Bouba]

Oh c'mon - that's a bit unfair.

We all have opinions and sometimes they get the better of us ...

It is unfair....which is why I wouldn’t say it to anyone else

 

[Refueler]

For those who may be interested :

Riussian Product standards are governed by GOST-R.

In many areas GOST-R standards are equivalent or even exceed western IP / ASTM standards.

I am not saying that Tyre standards are higher with GOST-R .... what I am saying is that thinking that Russian product standards are lower than western are generally not correct.

Second - China has the GOST-C system. Similar situation.

Third - Brazil has the GOST -Br system.

All three do meet and have to comply to allow product transit.... subject to sanctions of course.

 

[Slowtack]

Lot of tread drift here...

 

[SimonX]

I thought that was because their cars are more powerful

I think it’s because they are more showoffy

 

[SimonX]

Lot of tread drift here...

You often get drift with worn tyres…