lloydr
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Any idea of the best tv arial or is it just a case of DVD's
TV arials
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Sneds
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I use a domestic one from Argos, with booster. Cost around £40.
Have to take it down when the boat moves but works fine.
I have never had any luck with the flying saucer type caravan aerias.
Have to take it down when the boat moves but works fine.
I have never had any luck with the flying saucer type caravan aerias.
KevB
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Forget boat tv aerials, I've personally never seen a good one. Get a cheap camping satellite system (Around £70) from maplins. Obviously not much good if you are on the move or at anchor but when in a marina well worth it.
Sneds
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Good advice
KevB
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Good advice
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The obvious problem with boat aerials in a marina is you're already starting from a disadvantage being at sea level and everything around you being higher and getting in the way of the signal from the terrestrial transmitter. Not much gets in the way of a satellite from a marina though.... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Good advice
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The obvious problem with boat aerials in a marina is you're already starting from a disadvantage being at sea level and everything around you being higher and getting in the way of the signal from the terrestrial transmitter. Not much gets in the way of a satellite from a marina though.... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Richard10002
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Triax UFO since 2006 - mostly great pics - UK, Portugal, Spain, Italy. Masts and sea level hasnt been much of an issue so far.
Malta isnt so good as I'm in a dip surrounded by a big block of flats and hotels, but I get quite a few Italian Channels.
Not that it's been much use anywhere but Portugal, which had a lot of English speaking stuff, with Portuguese subtitles.
Malta isnt so good as I'm in a dip surrounded by a big block of flats and hotels, but I get quite a few Italian Channels.
Not that it's been much use anywhere but Portugal, which had a lot of English speaking stuff, with Portuguese subtitles.
buster3
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has any one got or useing one of these flat sat dome things I saw at london boat show? if so, is it worth the £1500
Elessar
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How much do you want to spend?
The TV aerials aimed at boats are good, and cost about £80. The glomex is a good and widely available example. But they are omnidirectional, which means they are "looking" equally all 360 degrees around the boat. If you aim a directional aerial it will give you a stronger signal if it is pointing the right way, and weaker if it isn't. The longer the aerial, the more directional it is, so the stronger the signal but the more accurate your aim needs to be.
I have an omni directional on my radar arch which works most of the time without having to do anything, which is the great benefit of them. It doesn't work in my home marina, because the signal there is weak. I have a directional aerial with a rail clamp which I can plug in if the telly is essential in weaker areas. Total investment about £100. It's great that the rail clamp one works but I've never used it as I don't watch much telly especially on the boat.
If you're a telly addict then the automatic satellite receiver from digital yacht looks fantastic but I've never used one and it costs about £1500. Will get you a signal in most places with this, even underway, unless you have a large building or tree to the south of you. Remember a TV satellite is geostationary, so by definition has to be over the equator (unlike nav satellites which can be above you) and so their angle of elevation is quite low (about 15 deg ish I think). A little bit of thinking of the logistics of terrestrial aerials goes a long way too. They basically need line of sight to the transmitter so at low tide in a deep marina it may not matter how good your aerial is - so don't expect the impossible however you receive your signal.
The TV aerials aimed at boats are good, and cost about £80. The glomex is a good and widely available example. But they are omnidirectional, which means they are "looking" equally all 360 degrees around the boat. If you aim a directional aerial it will give you a stronger signal if it is pointing the right way, and weaker if it isn't. The longer the aerial, the more directional it is, so the stronger the signal but the more accurate your aim needs to be.
I have an omni directional on my radar arch which works most of the time without having to do anything, which is the great benefit of them. It doesn't work in my home marina, because the signal there is weak. I have a directional aerial with a rail clamp which I can plug in if the telly is essential in weaker areas. Total investment about £100. It's great that the rail clamp one works but I've never used it as I don't watch much telly especially on the boat.
If you're a telly addict then the automatic satellite receiver from digital yacht looks fantastic but I've never used one and it costs about £1500. Will get you a signal in most places with this, even underway, unless you have a large building or tree to the south of you. Remember a TV satellite is geostationary, so by definition has to be over the equator (unlike nav satellites which can be above you) and so their angle of elevation is quite low (about 15 deg ish I think). A little bit of thinking of the logistics of terrestrial aerials goes a long way too. They basically need line of sight to the transmitter so at low tide in a deep marina it may not matter how good your aerial is - so don't expect the impossible however you receive your signal.
carlton
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I have never had any luck with the flying saucer type caravan aerias.
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Tell me about it - I bought one of these - but only because there was one (non-working) previously fitted to my boat. I can honestly say it's sh!te, and the only purpose it serves is to fill the existing hole in the radar arch.
I have never had any luck with the flying saucer type caravan aerias.
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Tell me about it - I bought one of these - but only because there was one (non-working) previously fitted to my boat. I can honestly say it's sh!te, and the only purpose it serves is to fill the existing hole in the radar arch.
KevB
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he TV aerials aimed at boats are good, and cost about £80. The glomex is a good
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I have had two Glomax with amps and both were rubbish. I get as good a signal with a coat hanger.
for guaranteed reception whilst in a marina a satellite dish is the only way to go.
he TV aerials aimed at boats are good, and cost about £80. The glomex is a good
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I have had two Glomax with amps and both were rubbish. I get as good a signal with a coat hanger.
for guaranteed reception whilst in a marina a satellite dish is the only way to go.
johnnys
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I fitted a Glomex Marinemaster last season,it has been excellent. Sailed the boat back from Plymouth to Harwich and got digital reception everywhere including a lot of French channels in Ramsgate. It is more expensive than the standard Glomex but worth it.
GSL
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I used a Glomex for a year at Shamrock Quay and it was great.
Boat now in Paris and we have had wonderful reception all the way down the canals, stopped and watched Qualifying Saturday for the Bahrain GP and tied up Sunday on the outskirts of Paris to watch the race. Perfect picture.
GL
Boat now in Paris and we have had wonderful reception all the way down the canals, stopped and watched Qualifying Saturday for the Bahrain GP and tied up Sunday on the outskirts of Paris to watch the race. Perfect picture.
GL
Elessar
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Not guaranteed. Read my post properly!
Elessar
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It can make a difference which berth you're in because it is line of sight. You're right they are good, those who think otherwise either have not installed it properly or are expecting the impossible.
rafiki_
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I can get some digital channels with good pictures, and fuzzy analogue. Without the omni aerial and booster, I would get nothing.
Take DVD's because there is not much worth watching on TV.
Take DVD's because there is not much worth watching on TV.
Elessar
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most sensible reply yet!
johnnys
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Sorry elessar I thought this was a forum for opinions I appologise for not understanding your definitive reply
Elessar
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Yes of course it's a forum for opinions and thanks for your polite retort.
I was grumpy about something else and shot the next person who spoke - sorry......
I was grumpy about something else and shot the next person who spoke - sorry......
catalac
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Glomex and other tv aerials
I want to install a masthead (Glomex?) tv aerial, but until the mast comes down next year I cannot fit this properly, as there is no room in the mast for another cable, hence the reason to lower the mast.
I am therefore planning to hoist the aerial by a halyard as a temporary measure. I have already tried a domestic omnidirectional aerial, but find that wind pressure and wash from passing boats cause the digital signal to cut out frequently.
My question is, does an omnidirectional (boat) aerial only work if it is in a horizontal position at all times, or is it not affected by a certain amount of movement. My boat is a catamaran, and therefore the amount of movement is less than a monohull (?), and I am hoping that a Glomex will have been designed to cope with a certain degree of movement, but nowhere is the horizontal bandwith mentioned, and I do not wish to waste £200.
I want to install a masthead (Glomex?) tv aerial, but until the mast comes down next year I cannot fit this properly, as there is no room in the mast for another cable, hence the reason to lower the mast.
I am therefore planning to hoist the aerial by a halyard as a temporary measure. I have already tried a domestic omnidirectional aerial, but find that wind pressure and wash from passing boats cause the digital signal to cut out frequently.
My question is, does an omnidirectional (boat) aerial only work if it is in a horizontal position at all times, or is it not affected by a certain amount of movement. My boat is a catamaran, and therefore the amount of movement is less than a monohull (?), and I am hoping that a Glomex will have been designed to cope with a certain degree of movement, but nowhere is the horizontal bandwith mentioned, and I do not wish to waste £200.
