Transportation of "first boat"

[david100952]

Transportation of \"first boat\"

After loads of useful advise on buying my first boat from forumites I have found what I hope will be my perfect partner. One big problem, it is in Faham Quay and I live in Exeter! Local chap will pick up and transport for £250 but wants me to crane on and off which seems an unneccesary expense when I am considering buying a Jaguar 22 which has bilge and lifting keel which will happily slide on and off a trailer on a slipway. If anyone is in a position to assist I will be happy to offer a suitable reward.

 

[CPD]

Re: Transportation of \"first boat\"

I dont understand. why not sail it to Exeter ? (Where is Faham Quay anyway ?)

 

[yoda]

Re: Transportation of \"first boat\"

Try and find a transport company with a HIAB fitted lorry then it can do the craning at both ends provided you can find a suitable quayside to do it from. Westcountry transport moved my 30ft fin keel boat that way without a problem and I have seen others advertising similar services on ebay.

PM me if you need more info.

Yoda

 

[William_H]

Re: Transportation of \"first boat\"

I am not sure what a bilge and lifting keel is like in my ignorance I would expect one or the other. The Jaguar 22 is common in oz under a different name with a lifting swing keel. However it is usually carried on a purpose built trailer which is backed into the water so that the trailer is mostly under water and the boat is then winched on rollers into place on the trailer. Sort of half floated on half winched on. How much of each depends on conditions but the winching can be pretty heavy.
Now this kind of treatment of a trailer is pretty cruel as it causes rust in wheel bearings brake components and structure. it takes a huge amount of effort maintaining the trailer in a safe condition. You couldn't possibly expect a commercial transporter to do that to his trailer and it is certainly impossible for a truck.

So while expensive you may find it a proposition to buy (have built) a carrying trailer to do the job yourself. (or you may be able to borrow/rentone but of course this is the season to have boats on trailers rather than in the water) It is certainly nice to be able to take the boat home or to other remote sites. Of course then you are commited to having a heavy car to tow it with. good luck olewill

 

[VicS]

Re: Transportation of \"first boat\"

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I am not sure what a bilge and lifting keel is like

[/ QUOTE ] No nor do I. According to my info the Jag 22 had either a fin keel or a lifting keel. Does the lifting keel version have shallow bilge runners so that it sits upright when dried out?

David
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it is in Faham Quay

[/ QUOTE ] Do you mean Fareham, at the top of Portsmouth harbour?

If you do end up needing a crane in that area try Meon Valley Crane Hire. A one man owner/operator absolutely superb with boats and has been used by the yard where I am based for a good few years. Sorry I do not know his phone number and I only know him as Brian!

 

[WayneS]

Re: Transportation of \"first boat\"

If you do intend to crane it out is might be cheaper, assuming it is in the water, to take it around to a marina like Port Solent and have them haul it out for you. Getting a crane out for a single lift can be expensive.

I agree on the HIAB comments. Used to do that for my Westerly22 which was a lot heavier than a Jag.

Wayne

 

[Guest]

Re: Transportation of \"first boat\"

Would you consider getting a trailer and then borrowing / cadging a 4x4 to tow it rather than crane and truck ?
If it's Fareham Quay ... then there's a slipway that is local to it ... sure seller would help as most would.

Trick is to let trailer down on jockey wheel with rope (fast on car tow hook) into water such that boat can come on ... and car is out of water. Once boat on ... pull boat and trailer out carefully so that boat sits onto trailer .. if needs adjustment .. back in and adjust .. etc. Once trailer far enough out to connect car .. brake on, and then hitch up.

As to price of £250 - that I reckon is cheap and a crane hire on top would bring it to commercial full whack.

I assume from your post and comment of slip - that it's afloat ?

Anyway - most transporters of boats who do it as a job have props and lift jacks to jack up boats for sliding trailers under..... for boats this sort of size. When a guy moved my Snap 23 - he had all the gear in side panniers on trailer. He lifted her .. and he reckoned he could do it on a slipway when tide is out ! .. and trailer went in under.

It might be worth talking to a few boat hauliers ... mine was Tideway ... Waterlooville.

 

[david100952]

Re: Transportation of \"first boat\"

Yes the boat is at FAREHAM Quay nr Portmouth harbour (I'm new to the forum and can't find the spellcheck) and it has a lifting keel but also two "bilge runners" which the owner described as bilge keels. I have not viewed the boat at low tide yet but suffice to say they will stop it falling over when sitting on the mud. Why do I not sail it to Exeter?
Well a couple of reasons as follows: 1) I havent been sailing since the Great Lakes (non-tidal) in Canada 20 years ago and am only half way through the RYA dayskipper theory course. 2) Its cold outside. 3) With recent events in mind there are possibly 140 large containers floating around off the Jurrassic Coast that don't appear on any of the charts that I would need to buy. 4) My wife has responded negatively to the idea which has already been suggested in my overenthusiasm prior to reasons 1-3 being considered.
I will follow up on the HIAB, the trailer and any other suggestions which are all very gratefully received. (Including anyone who has a sense of adventure, an artic sleeping bag, all necesary charts and tools as required to make profitable use of flotsum and jetsum encountered during proposed voyage.)
On a more serious note I am really keen to get this boat and get it home so I can start sprucing her up so please do get in touch if you can assist.

 

[VicS]

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might be cheaper, assuming it is in the water, to take it around to a marina like Port Solent

[/ QUOTE ] You are quite right. I misread the original question as meaning it was ON the quay. However there are places nearer than Port Solent. It is a long time since I was last at Fareham but surely there is a yard there that may have a crane or boat lift. Next nearest is I think Wicor then Quay Lane and even the yards and marinas around Gosport are nearer than P.S.

As sbc says professional boat transporters have allsorts of cunning gear for getting small boats on and off of trailers.


David,
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I'm new to the forum and can't find the spellcheck

[/ QUOTE ] There is no spell check on the forum. Not that it would have known how to spell Fareham any more than it would have been able to spell Portsmouth if there had been. If you really want a spell check to use then I was recommended this one http://www.iespell.com/ but I have not tried it. I sometimes compose posts in MS Word, & spell check them there before copying and pasting into the forum. I also save long posts from Word so that if they evaporate into the ether as happens sometimes I do not have to start typing from the start all over again.

 

[yoda]

Re: Transportation of \"first boat\"

David

Have sent PM

Yoda