Torqeedo Travel 1003C as a Shrimper auxiliary?

maxr_r said:
Thanks, guys - sounds like portable electric outboards aren't there yet for anything much above a large dinghy, or maybe getting a light sportsboat off a mooring - pity.
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I could see the fixed pod system working well for a clean, simple dayboat or weekender, but it does rely on a workable means of recharging the battery.

Pete
 
Boo2 said:
What's the performance like, John ? Have you had any problems with it at all ?

Boo2
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I've posted earlier in the thread re performance. I've had one small breakage which I suspect was a shipping problem. It was fixed promptly and without fuss by Nestaway.

John
 
maxr_r said:
Thanks, guys - sounds like portable electric outboards aren't there yet for anything much above a large dinghy, or maybe getting a light sportsboat off a mooring - pity.
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Yes, I guess so.

An International Folkboat (26ft, about twice the displacement you are thinking about) has been fitted, in the UK, with one of these systems:

https://oceanvolt.com/#homepage

I don't know any of the details but I would bet the bill approached 10k. I suppose you then have to figure out a regime for charging up the batteries - unless you are marina based.
 
maxr_r said:
With diesel bug etc., it's becoming an interesting question whether a diesel engine is still an appropriate design for leisure sailing boats boats made in small numbers which preclude expensive development.
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I think it very unlikely that we leisure sailors will be allowed to get away with grossly out-of-date and polluting diesel technology for long.
 
JumbleDuck said:
I think it very unlikely that we leisure sailors will be allowed to get away with grossly out-of-date and polluting diesel technology for long.
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Given the total number of hours run (ie, number of installations and amount of time most of them spend sitting idle) versus road vehicles, it makes no practical difference.

Obviously, practicality has only the most passing acquaintance with politics, but hopefully lack of familiarity (most non-sailors I speak to have little idea whether a typical yacht even has an engine) will help there.

Pete
 
prv said:
Given the total number of hours run (ie, number of installations and amount of time most of them spend sitting idle) versus road vehicles, it makes no practical difference.
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Well, maybe, but unless we get sealed boxes monitoring our engine hours, I am pretty sure we'll all be subjected to harsher rules in due course.
 
JumbleDuck said:
Well, maybe, but unless we get sealed boxes monitoring our engine hours, I am pretty sure we'll all be subjected to harsher rules in due course.
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What is your timescale "in due course".

I see nothing to suggest that there is any pressure on diesels for small boats - no calls about pollution that can be "solved" by banning diesels. New engines comply with similar regulations to road vehicles. The only thing I can see on the horizon is pressure on industrial applications that might result in reducing the supply of suitable engine - and there are no signs of this.

So, if you have any concrete information (or even speculation) that has been aired in public would be useful for you to share it.

Until then, file your comments firmly in the fake news bin.
 
I was going to post a link to a PBO article about electrifying a shrimper but it sounds like that wont meet your needs because of charging. I assume Solar Charging isn't an option?

So two instant thoughts:

- Lots of boats leave OBs in the water. So is fouling actually an issue?
- If you really want to lift the OB out the water when you've moored up... ...do you REALLY need to lift it out the well, or just lift it out the water in the well? Tilt isn't an option I know - but can an engineering solution be found that will allow it to be lifted but not moved to a locker.. The lift could use mechanical advantage.
 
Here's a video of an ePropulsion Spirit 1.0 in an H-Boat (27', 1.45 tons):
It looks like it would be fine for getting in and out of the marina, but probably no good for making headway against waves.
 
Tranona said:
Until then, file your comments firmly in the fake news bin.
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That seems rather unnecessarily rude. It's quite clear that that JD's post is merely speculation, his opinion on where things might go in the future, and he's not representing it as anything more than that. You don't need to agree with it (I don't, particularly), but describing what he writes as malicious lies - which is what "fake news" means - is uncalled for.

Pete
 
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JumbleDuck said:
A curious interpretation of https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32013L0053&from=EN and of current trends in diesel car emissions.
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Yes, I was stretching it - however it is more applicable to the high horsepower engines derived from road vehicle engines. However as just about all marine engines are derived from automotive and road vehicle engines so will meet whatever requirements that are applicable in their original use.

Still does not answer my main observation, which is that there does not seem to be any pressure as you claim to restrict the use of diesels for leisure boat propulsion. Not something I just wish to be true but does seem to be. Merely asking you to support your claim that there is pressure with some evidence, otherwise it does belong in the fake news bin.
 
Having owned a Shrimper (Crabber as it was then) 17 with a 4hp 4 stroke OB, the KISS aspect of an outboard is greatly overrated. Perhaps my choice of Mariner was poor but it was hopelessly unreliable and didn't fit into a locker designed for a 5hp 2stroke. By comparison,in my experience inboard diesels are much more dependable - even when they are not running well, they do run! There is a reason why Shrimpers with an inboard are more desirable.
 
I had an Achilles 24 many moons ago, it had a 6hp twin Evinrude in the well and it would push the Achilles along very nicely even in headwinds and adverse tides. Would think a Shrimper would need as much power as an Achilles. Shame the Shrimper has not got a well, its a good idea in a small boat and usually avoids the prop cavitation problem of outboards on the tramsom.

David MH
 
One problem with using a Torqeedo for the Shrimper is that you are not supposed to let the water drive the propeller. In other words you can’t leave it in position whilst sailing. Great motor though and would drive a shrimper.
 
Just to clarify, both the 17 and 19 have a well; the one in the 17 is well located on the centreline but if I recall the 19 is assymetrically located; the problem is that these boats were designed for relatively light 2 strokes, which could be hoiked out of the well and placed in the locker - my 17 even had a plate to cover the gap - but 4 strokes are bulker and heavier and it's really only realistic to leave them in place. Sounds as if this rules out the Torqueedo.

BTW, not sure if OP is looking at new or secondhand. Probably a good idea to also look at the Memory 19 and Swallow Boats range.
 
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