Today's Solent disasters.

Seems to me the risk of running the engine with the seacock closed is vastly greater than the risk of the clamps undoing themselves and then the hose levering itself off the barbed fitting. I've often had to cut them off when removing old ones, so a hose that can jump off all on its own must be very clever indeed.

Absolutely! Just leave them all open (but operate them once a month or so to keep them mobile). People are quite happy to leave cockpit drains open, so why worry about the others?
 
My cockpit drains have been seized ever since I bought the boat about 15 years ago. The're in a lazarette, so would take a fair while to sink the boat if they did come off, which is unlikely as, when I looked at the problem soon after buying, I couldn't get the pipes off. I do have bungs tied to each drain though.
 
Absolutely! Just leave them all open (but operate them once a month or so to keep them mobile). People are quite happy to leave cockpit drains open, so why worry about the others?

OK .... I'll admit to being confused. My engine and toilet seacocks both exit below sea level so are clearly a flood risk. The cockpit drains, like the sink drains, exit above sea level so why should I not be happy, relatively speaking? :confused:

Richard
 
Seems to me that the reason people leave cockpit drains open in spite of the theoretical risk of sinking the boat is because there's a very real risk of a couple of wet months between visits causing problems if they're kept closed.
 
"People are quite happy to leave cockpit drains open" sounds exactly like me 'cos I'm a person. :rolleyes:

"People ride motorbikes"

"People dye their hair"

"People go ice-climbing"

I don't do any of those things, but it doesn't make the statements untrue.

Pete
 
"People ride motorbikes"

"People dye their hair"

"People go ice-climbing"

I don't do any of those things, but it doesn't make the statements untrue.

Pete

"I feel a risk assessment coming on " says he as he quickly transfers to the Scuttlebut forum :--
[h=2]QHM Portsmouth Requiring Risk Assessments from Sailing Clubs.[/h]
 
Seems to me that the reason people leave cockpit drains open in spite of the theoretical risk of sinking the boat is because there's a very real risk of a couple of wet months between visits causing problems if they're kept closed.

I leave mine open-- because there aren't any SCs
The drains just discharge over the scoop at the rear
 
"People ride motorbikes"

"People dye their hair"

"People go ice-climbing"

I don't do any of those things, but it doesn't make the statements untrue.

Pete

All those statements would be logically correct if, and only if, gorillas or leprechauns also participated in those activities occasionally. In the absence of such a multitudinous engagement, the correct phraseology would be "Some people ride motorbikes", as the attribution to homo sapiens is implicit from the context. ;)

Richard
 
You are not all people.

You can't tell a Yorkshireman that. For a start he won't believe you that he doesn't count as all people for all practical purposes. :)

Anyway, he appears happy enough to leave his open so not sure what the argument is.

I'm not happy leaving mine open, but I do as the alternative will be for rainwater to fill the cockpit and seep in past the washboards. If I ever sell and buy something else it will have no cockpit drains and an open transom.
 
Ha, genius, makes me feel a tad better. I am really kicking myself for not turning the raw water cock on. The rest was just getting used to this boat. It has really old winches with the slot in handle, cant remember what they are called, but they will be getting replaced, too slow and unwieldy. I have a box full of winches Karen will find much easier so that is a must

As a private pilot of a certain age, I live by checklists!! I also have lists for arriving at the boat, leaving for sea and leaving the boat to return home, all beautifully printed and laminated. Checklists are very useful either when you are new to sailing, or getting, ahem, a little older.
 
One of my multitude of cock-ups;

self and girlfriend - she was a willing helper but didn't know sailing or navigation - had sailed across from Lymington to Guernsey, arriving utterly knackered despite a fairly calm uneventful crossing, in the evening; at St Peter Port the tides mean one has to wait in the outer harbour hours before the tide over the sill allows one into the marina.

In the early hours the boats around us moved into the marina, so in an unusual burst of gentlemanly behaviour I didn't wake Fiona but took the boat in by myself, secured her then quickly crashed out in my bunk again.

In the morning when we finally stirred, we were floating free a few feet parallel to our bemused neighbour; I was so tired I'd tied our springs from our bow to our stern and vice versa while the breast lines were double length where I'd meant to double them back but hadn't got round to it, so the boat was just ' hovering ' - lucky it was flat calm...:ambivalence:
 
If it's below the waterline...they stay closed unless they are in use.
If they are above, it doesn't really matter
Engine is always open when under way, sail or power (obvs!) so I won't accidentally cook the donk just as I'm trying to get back to an MOB!
Sticker next to the igntion switch which says "SEACOCK?"
Gas taps always closed unless actually in use, or immediately between uses (ie have cooked, am eating, have not yet boiled kettle for washing up)
Each to their own...but I only have 3 holes in the hull below the waterline. However this will change on Friday fingers crossed with a new boat so might need to alter the regime!
 
Is there room in your footer for another boat?

Haha well hopefully the Sabre will be leaving the fleet soon. In my defence the F15 was rescued from the bonfire pile, and the Furball and Niner are both 20 years old now!
 
If it's below the waterline...they stay closed unless they are in use.
If they are above, it doesn't really matter
Engine is always open when under way, sail or power (obvs!) so I won't accidentally cook the donk just as I'm trying to get back to an MOB!
Sticker next to the igntion switch which says "SEACOCK?"
Gas taps always closed unless actually in use, or immediately between uses (ie have cooked, am eating, have not yet boiled kettle for washing up)
Each to their own...but I only have 3 holes in the hull below the waterline. However this will change on Friday fingers crossed with a new boat so might need to alter the regime!

As you say, each to their own. With 11 of which 8 are nearly always submerged it would be a big faff for us to close everything so we don't except when we are leaving the boat for a few weeks or months, and even then leave the sink seacock permanently open so the dehumidifier can drain.

Gas is also only ever switched off when we finally leave the boat - that gives me slightly more anxiety than the seacocks but not enough to change such a long habit.
 
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