Titchy Cat?

[Frogmogman]

The IC 36 catamaran, which was short-listed in the European Yacht of the Year awards, supposedly can fit into a container when dismantled. It does seem a rather more serious offering than the one that’s the subject of the thread, but does seem to be trying to be all things to all men.

Independent Catamaran IC36 - Site

 

[AngusMcDoon]

The IC 36 catamaran, which was short-listed in the European Yacht of the Year awards, supposedly can fit into a container when dismantled. It does seem a rather more serious offering than the one that’s the subject of the thread, but does seem to be trying to be all things to all men.

Independent Catamaran IC36 - Site

I'm not so sure that the double decker berths are a good idea, but apart from that it looks like a viable boat for go fast catamaran sailors. While it lacks comfort it doesn't skimp on the sailing kit - not many boats come with 3Di sails from the builder. It has the modern cat standard of beam:LOA ratio of just under 2:1 so stability should be ok. It looks more like a Dazcat than anything from the major builders, and I expect will have a Dazcat price.

 

[stephen_h]

The IC 36 catamaran, which was short-listed in the European Yacht of the Year awards, supposedly can fit into a container when dismantled. It does seem a rather more serious offering than the one that’s the subject of the thread, but does seem to be trying to be all things to all men.

Independent Catamaran IC36 - Site

That is a nice looking boat and should sail well so electric motors should be a lot more feasable. BUT 500K euros!!!

 

[AngusMcDoon]

That is a nice looking boat and should sail well so electric motors should be a lot more feasable. BUT 500K euros!!!

That's the price you have to pay for electric or hybrid drive boats. The Broadblue 346 with twin hybrid diesel-electric drives costs over €400k with the typical optional extras most buyers have. This type of propulsion not only seriously limits your range, it's also hideously expensive, which is why it's not coming to the typical AWB near you any time soon. As I said above, there are better and more cost effective uses of the scarce, expensive, difficult and polluting to obtain resource of lithium than leisure boats.

 

[langstonelayabout]

€150,000 or not, it’s horrible and offends my eyes. I won’t be buying it, even if it were €150.

Electric, No mainsail, bedroom and kitchen diner, it should sell well to those who have owned MacGregor 26s.

 

[Neeves]

The IC 36 catamaran, which was short-listed in the European Yacht of the Year awards, supposedly can fit into a container when dismantled. It does seem a rather more serious offering than the one that’s the subject of the thread, but does seem to be trying to be all things to all men.

Independent Catamaran IC36 - Site

It has quite a low or small bridge deck clearance - it will be quite noisy in seas.

J

 

[Bajansailor]

Why this desire to fit a boat into a 40' shipping container?
Ok, it would be 'safer', and less likely to be damaged, and could be stored in the hold.
Why not use a 40' flat rack instead, stored on the hatch covers of the ship, and then there would be less restriction on height, and you might even 'get away' with bulging out a bit at the sides (more than 8') - so long as the shipping company is not bloody minded enough to then charge you for the adjacent container slots as well.

 

[Neeves]

Why this desire to fit a boat into a 40' shipping container?
Ok, it would be 'safer', and less likely to be damaged, and could be stored in the hold.
Why not use a 40' flat rack instead, stored on the hatch covers of the ship, and then there would be less restriction on height, and you might even 'get away' with bulging out a bit at the sides (more than 8') - so long as the shipping company is not bloody minded enough to then charge you for the adjacent container slots as well.

I think, or hope, that the emphasis on a 40' container is a convenience.

The world is geared up to moving 'stuff' in units of 20' or 40'. Trucks are focussed round these sizes, railroad wagons, cranes everything is focussed at these 2 unit sizes.

and Imperial units rule!

Like you I would hope that flat racks would fit in the concept. I would also hope that because the contents, the yacht, would weigh much less than the maximum weight allowable in these units - that there might be some flexibility.

Sadly currently container rates are horrific, directly or indirectly attributable to covid (I understand). Now would not be a good time to test flexibility.


I have not been following developments but another yacht, another catamaran - the Fusion 40 - was designed round the 40' box. This was a home build. The 'parts' were moulded up in a factory (I think in Thailand), hulls, deck, internal furniture. You bought your kit (like an oversized plastic contraction kit) and it arrived in 2 x 40' boxes. You glued it altogether - and sail away. The kit also came with hoops that you could attach to the 2 containers, laid side by side, and with a decent cover you built under cover between the 2 boxes - using the boxes as secure workshops. We had one on a swing mooring near us a year or so ago.

Saved some money and importantly a lot of fairing.

Jonathan

 

[Bajansailor]

That Fusion 40 kit concept does look very neat indeed -
Fusion Kit Catamarans

Here is a brochure about the kit -
http://www.fusioncats.com/Downloads/Fusion Kit Brochure 2010.pdf

 

[dgadee]

That Fusion 40 kit concept does look very neat indeed -
Fusion Kit Catamarans

Here is a brochure about the kit -
http://www.fusioncats.com/Downloads/Fusion Kit Brochure 2010.pdf

How much are they?

 

[Bajansailor]

I don't know - I guess you would have to write to them and ask them.

 

[dgadee]

I don't know - I guess you would have to write to them and ask them.

No point. I am too tight.

 

[Blueboatman]

Evolution?
Look what happens when someone dares to square off the front end of a 36footer as well as the back end . It’s an oblong box, let’s call it a “cat”.

With roll down blinds and a roll out raggy thingy..

actually .. I quite like it ? it’s honest, f’ugly. Commercially oriented , and about as relevant to ocean sailing as a crisp packet is to a life raft..

 

[Poignard]

I suppose I am old-fashioned but as far as boats are concerned I take the view that if it don't look right, it ain't right.

 

[Blueboatman]

I suppose I am old-fashioned but as far as boats are concerned I take the view that if it don't look right, it ain't right.

I would want to verify the motion . Some boxes can be very unpleasant at sea