Time for a 'Where am I?' picture?

[Baggywrinkle]

Ah .... so the question is whether you decided on Sesula at the same time as I did with or without the help from the metadata?

Richard

All that really matters is that my answer was post 12, and yours was post 13 .... ? ? ... I simply chose to reveal that the metadata was still in the photo - I knew where it was without the metadata .....


.... or did I? ... no-one will ever know.

 

[RichardS]

All that really matters is that my answer was post 12, and yours was post 13 .... ? ? ... I simply chose to reveal that the metadata was still in the photo - I knew where it was without the metadata .....


.... or did I? ... no-one will ever know.

God will ..... and does.

Richard

 

[Bouba]

All that really matters is that my answer was post 12, and yours was post 13 .... ? ? ... I simply chose to reveal that the metadata was still in the photo - I knew where it was without the metadata .....


.... or did I? ... no-one will ever know.

How do you do that meta data thingy?

 

[Baggywrinkle]

God will ..... and does.

Richard

.. then I suggest you ask him.

 

[RichardS]

.. then I suggest you ask him.

I will later ...... much later.

Richard

 

[Baggywrinkle]

How do you do that meta data thingy?

Most picture editing software, including the "Photos" App, included with windows have a function to show file information ... which for photo metadata includes all sorts of info including the camera settings used to take the pic, the time and date and also the location info if the device that took the photo is capable - which most mobile phones are.

Or you can right-click on the file in file explorer and select the "details" tab. There you will find the Lat and Long of where the photo was taken (if enabled in the device when it took the photo).

In file explorer there is also the option to "Remove Properties and Personal Information" - also on the details tab which creates a copy pf the photo with all the personal metadata stripped out - the camera settings and the date the photo was taken along with non-personal data remain and if you're really paranoid you can directly edit this info and change it by simply clicking on what you want to change and typing new data in.

... useful when you do a "Where is it?" and don't want people to simply look in the metadata to find out.

PS: You could also spoof the data to find out who is looking at the metadata in a "Where is it?" post ... set the lat/long to somewhere similar and see who suggests the "false" location.

 

[Bouba]

Most picture editing software, including the "Photos" App, included with windows have a function to show file information ... which for photo metadata includes all sorts of info including the camera settings used to take the pic, the time and date and also the location info if the device that took the photo is capable - which most mobile phones are.

Or you can right-click on the file in file explorer and select the "details" tab. There you will find the Lat and Long of where the photo was taken (if enabled in the device when it took the photo).

In file explorer there is also the option to "Remove Properties and Personal Information" - also on the details tab which creates a copy pf the photo with all the metadata stripped out.

... useful when you do a "Where is it?" and don't want people to simply look in the metadata to find out.

Ok I’m an Apple bloke so I have no technical knowledge. Can you tell me if you can find any metadata in my picture SVP

 

[Baggywrinkle]

I will later ...... much later.

Richard

... don't you have to get past St. Peter first? .. or does the chap in the "other place" also know?

 

[Homer J]

Whilst it is great that this technology exists isn't what you have done the same as going to a pub quiz and looking the answers up on Google? Doesn't this rather spoil the fun?

 

[Baggywrinkle]

Ok I’m an Apple bloke so I have no technical knowledge. Can you tell me if you can find any metadata in my picture SVP

No location data, just this ...



... and a few other bits of uninteresting data.

 

[Bouba]

No location data, just this ...

View attachment 120536

... and a few other bits of uninteresting data.

So nothing incriminating or traceable ?
I don’t want people to know but I have never been to any of those places that I post photos of.....

 

[Bouba]

Whilst it is great that this technology exists isn't what you have done the same as going to a pub quiz and looking the answers up on Google? Doesn't this rather spoil the fun?

Only losers play for fun?????

 

[Baggywrinkle]

Whilst it is great that this technology exists isn't what you have done the same as going to a pub quiz and looking the answers up on Google? Doesn't this rather spoil the fun?

IMO, it's a good idea to strip location and personal data out of things posted on the internet as a matter of habit - regardless if there are people out there who will "cheat".

... but yes, it does rather spoil the fun.

 

[RobbieW]

Completely accurate, yet strangely unhelpful ? ? ? ? ?

He's probably a consultant ?

 

[Seashoreman]

Ok I’m an Apple bloke so I have no technical knowledge. Can you tell me if you can find any metadata in my picture SVP

Well I can do a right click and get 'search the web for image'. The island brings up a few similar but too vague a subject.
It may be more successful with a more specific pic?

 

[JumbleDuck]

How do you do that meta data thingy?

In my case I used the Linux program "exiftool" which told me all it could find, from which I extracted the bold bits.

​

ExifTool Version Number : 10.80​

File Name : A Bay.jpeg​

Directory : .​

File Size : 137 kB​

File Modification Date/Time : 2021:08:12 14:45:53+01:00​

File Access Date/Time : 2021:08:12 14:45:53+01:00​

File Inode Change Date/Time : 2021:08:12 14:45:53+01:00​

File Permissions : rw-rw-r--​

File Type : JPEG​

File Type Extension : jpg​

MIME Type : image/jpeg​

JFIF Version : 1.01​

Exif Byte Order : Big-endian (Motorola, MM)​

Processing Software : Windows Photo Editor 10.0.10011.16384​

Make : Apple​

Camera Model Name : iPhone 11 Pro​

Orientation : Horizontal (normal)​

X Resolution : 72​

Y Resolution : 72​

Resolution Unit : inches​

Software : Windows Photo Editor 10.0.10011.16384​

Modify Date : 2021:08:12 11:02:01​

Host Computer : iPhone 11 Pro​

Tile Width : 512​

Tile Length : 512​

Y Cb Cr Positioning : Centered​

Exposure Time : 1/1429​

F Number : 1.8​

Exposure Program : Program AE​

ISO : 32​

Exif Version : 0232​

Date/Time Original : 2021:07:01 19:08:23​

Create Date : 2021:07:01 19:08:23​

Offset Time : +02:00​

Offset Time Original : +02:00​

Offset Time Digitized : +02:00​

Components Configuration : Y, Cb, Cr, -​

Shutter Speed Value : 1/1429​

Aperture Value : 1.8​

Brightness Value : 8.878905359​

Exposure Compensation : 0​

Metering Mode : Multi-segment​

Flash : Off, Did not fire​

Focal Length : 4.2 mm​

Subject Area : 2009 1509 2318 1390​

Run Time Flags : Valid​

Run Time Value : 485134317042500​

Run Time Scale : 1000000000​

Run Time Epoch : 0​

Acceleration Vector : -0.9552302954 0.001921870397 -0.2581129968​

Content Identifier : 0228D465-D5FF-4613-922E-28F310E047A3​

Sub Sec Time Original : 368​

Sub Sec Time Digitized : 368​

Flashpix Version : 0100​

Color Space : sRGB​

Exif Image Width : 4032​

Exif Image Height : 3024​

Sensing Method : One-chip color area​

Scene Type : Directly photographed​

Exposure Mode : Auto​

White Balance : Auto​

Focal Length In 35mm Format : 26 mm​

Scene Capture Type : Standard​

Lens Info : 1.539999962-6mm f/1.8-2.4​

Lens Make : Apple​

Lens Model : iPhone 11 Pro back triple camera 4.25mm f/1.8​

Offset Schema : 4236​

GPS Latitude Ref : North​

GPS Longitude Ref : East​

GPS Altitude Ref : Above Sea Level​

GPS Speed Ref : km/h​

GPS Speed : 0​

GPS Img Direction Ref : Magnetic North​

GPS Img Direction : 121.8147851​

GPS Dest Bearing Ref : Magnetic North​

GPS Dest Bearing : 121.8147851​

GPS Horizontal Positioning Error: 165 m​

Padding : (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -b option to extract)​

Compression : JPEG (old-style)​

Thumbnail Offset : 6832​

Thumbnail Length : 7173​

IPTC Digest : d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e​

About : uuid:faf5bdd5-ba3d-11da-ad31-d33d75182f1b​

Creator Tool : Windows Photo Editor 10.0.10011.16384​

Image Width : 500​

Image Height : 375​

Encoding Process : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding​

Bits Per Sample : 8​

Color Components : 3​

Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling : YCbCr4:2:0 (2 2)​

Aperture : 1.8​

GPS Altitude : 8.7 m Above Sea Level​

GPS Latitude : 43 deg 23' 41.36" N​

GPS Longitude : 16 deg 12' 43.19" E​

GPS Position : 43 deg 23' 41.36" N, 16 deg 12' 43.19" E​

Image Size : 500x375​

Megapixels : 0.188​

Run Time Since Power Up : 5 days 14:45:34​

Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 6.1​

Shutter Speed : 1/1429​

Create Date : 2021:07:01 19:08:23.368+02:00​

Date/Time Original : 2021:07:01 19:08:23.368+02:00​

Modify Date : 2021:08:12 11:02:01+02:00​

Thumbnail Image : (Binary data 7173 bytes, use -b option to extract)​

Circle Of Confusion : 0.005 mm​

Field Of View : 69.4 deg​

Focal Length : 4.2 mm (35 mm equivalent: 26.0 mm)​

Hyperfocal Distance : 2.04 m​

Light Value : 13.8​

​

My personal circle of confusion is generally very much bigger than 0.005mm.

 

[RichardS]

In my case I used the Linux program "exiftool" which told me all it could find, from which I extracted the bold bits.

​

ExifTool Version Number : 10.80​

File Name : A Bay.jpeg​

Directory : .​

File Size : 137 kB​

File Modification Date/Time : 2021:08:12 14:45:53+01:00​

File Access Date/Time : 2021:08:12 14:45:53+01:00​

File Inode Change Date/Time : 2021:08:12 14:45:53+01:00​

File Permissions : rw-rw-r--​

File Type : JPEG​

File Type Extension : jpg​

MIME Type : image/jpeg​

JFIF Version : 1.01​

Exif Byte Order : Big-endian (Motorola, MM)​

Processing Software : Windows Photo Editor 10.0.10011.16384​

Make : Apple​

Camera Model Name : iPhone 11 Pro​

Orientation : Horizontal (normal)​

X Resolution : 72​

Y Resolution : 72​

Resolution Unit : inches​

Software : Windows Photo Editor 10.0.10011.16384​

Modify Date : 2021:08:12 11:02:01​

Host Computer : iPhone 11 Pro​

Tile Width : 512​

Tile Length : 512​

Y Cb Cr Positioning : Centered​

Exposure Time : 1/1429​

F Number : 1.8​

Exposure Program : Program AE​

ISO : 32​

Exif Version : 0232​

Date/Time Original : 2021:07:01 19:08:23​

Create Date : 2021:07:01 19:08:23​

Offset Time : +02:00​

Offset Time Original : +02:00​

Offset Time Digitized : +02:00​

Components Configuration : Y, Cb, Cr, -​

Shutter Speed Value : 1/1429​

Aperture Value : 1.8​

Brightness Value : 8.878905359​

Exposure Compensation : 0​

Metering Mode : Multi-segment​

Flash : Off, Did not fire​

Focal Length : 4.2 mm​

Subject Area : 2009 1509 2318 1390​

Run Time Flags : Valid​

Run Time Value : 485134317042500​

Run Time Scale : 1000000000​

Run Time Epoch : 0​

Acceleration Vector : -0.9552302954 0.001921870397 -0.2581129968​

Content Identifier : 0228D465-D5FF-4613-922E-28F310E047A3​

Sub Sec Time Original : 368​

Sub Sec Time Digitized : 368​

Flashpix Version : 0100​

Color Space : sRGB​

Exif Image Width : 4032​

Exif Image Height : 3024​

Sensing Method : One-chip color area​

Scene Type : Directly photographed​

Exposure Mode : Auto​

White Balance : Auto​

Focal Length In 35mm Format : 26 mm​

Scene Capture Type : Standard​

Lens Info : 1.539999962-6mm f/1.8-2.4​

Lens Make : Apple​

Lens Model : iPhone 11 Pro back triple camera 4.25mm f/1.8​

Offset Schema : 4236​

GPS Latitude Ref : North​

GPS Longitude Ref : East​

GPS Altitude Ref : Above Sea Level​

GPS Speed Ref : km/h​

GPS Speed : 0​

GPS Img Direction Ref : Magnetic North​

GPS Img Direction : 121.8147851​

GPS Dest Bearing Ref : Magnetic North​

GPS Dest Bearing : 121.8147851​

GPS Horizontal Positioning Error: 165 m​

Padding : (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -b option to extract)​

Compression : JPEG (old-style)​

Thumbnail Offset : 6832​

Thumbnail Length : 7173​

IPTC Digest : d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e​

About : uuid:faf5bdd5-ba3d-11da-ad31-d33d75182f1b​

Creator Tool : Windows Photo Editor 10.0.10011.16384​

Image Width : 500​

Image Height : 375​

Encoding Process : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding​

Bits Per Sample : 8​

Color Components : 3​

Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling : YCbCr4:2:0 (2 2)​

Aperture : 1.8​

GPS Altitude : 8.7 m Above Sea Level​

GPS Latitude : 43 deg 23' 41.36" N​

GPS Longitude : 16 deg 12' 43.19" E​

GPS Position : 43 deg 23' 41.36" N, 16 deg 12' 43.19" E​

Image Size : 500x375​

Megapixels : 0.188​

Run Time Since Power Up : 5 days 14:45:34​

Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 6.1​

Shutter Speed : 1/1429​

Create Date : 2021:07:01 19:08:23.368+02:00​

Date/Time Original : 2021:07:01 19:08:23.368+02:00​

Modify Date : 2021:08:12 11:02:01+02:00​

Thumbnail Image : (Binary data 7173 bytes, use -b option to extract)​

Circle Of Confusion : 0.005 mm​

Field Of View : 69.4 deg​

Focal Length : 4.2 mm (35 mm equivalent: 26.0 mm)​

Hyperfocal Distance : 2.04 m​

Light Value : 13.8​

​

My personal circle of confusion is generally very much bigger than 0.005mm.

How does the compass direction that the photo was taken in help you locate it?

Richard

 

[mjcoon]

God will ..... and does.

Richard

Is He included in GDPR?

 

[Bouba]

In my case I used the Linux program "exiftool" which told me all it could find, from which I extracted the bold bits.

​

ExifTool Version Number : 10.80​

File Name : A Bay.jpeg​

Directory : .​

File Size : 137 kB​

File Modification Date/Time : 2021:08:12 14:45:53+01:00​

File Access Date/Time : 2021:08:12 14:45:53+01:00​

File Inode Change Date/Time : 2021:08:12 14:45:53+01:00​

File Permissions : rw-rw-r--​

File Type : JPEG​

File Type Extension : jpg​

MIME Type : image/jpeg​

JFIF Version : 1.01​

Exif Byte Order : Big-endian (Motorola, MM)​

Processing Software : Windows Photo Editor 10.0.10011.16384​

Make : Apple​

Camera Model Name : iPhone 11 Pro​

Orientation : Horizontal (normal)​

X Resolution : 72​

Y Resolution : 72​

Resolution Unit : inches​

Software : Windows Photo Editor 10.0.10011.16384​

Modify Date : 2021:08:12 11:02:01​

Host Computer : iPhone 11 Pro​

Tile Width : 512​

Tile Length : 512​

Y Cb Cr Positioning : Centered​

Exposure Time : 1/1429​

F Number : 1.8​

Exposure Program : Program AE​

ISO : 32​

Exif Version : 0232​

Date/Time Original : 2021:07:01 19:08:23​

Create Date : 2021:07:01 19:08:23​

Offset Time : +02:00​

Offset Time Original : +02:00​

Offset Time Digitized : +02:00​

Components Configuration : Y, Cb, Cr, -​

Shutter Speed Value : 1/1429​

Aperture Value : 1.8​

Brightness Value : 8.878905359​

Exposure Compensation : 0​

Metering Mode : Multi-segment​

Flash : Off, Did not fire​

Focal Length : 4.2 mm​

Subject Area : 2009 1509 2318 1390​

Run Time Flags : Valid​

Run Time Value : 485134317042500​

Run Time Scale : 1000000000​

Run Time Epoch : 0​

Acceleration Vector : -0.9552302954 0.001921870397 -0.2581129968​

Content Identifier : 0228D465-D5FF-4613-922E-28F310E047A3​

Sub Sec Time Original : 368​

Sub Sec Time Digitized : 368​

Flashpix Version : 0100​

Color Space : sRGB​

Exif Image Width : 4032​

Exif Image Height : 3024​

Sensing Method : One-chip color area​

Scene Type : Directly photographed​

Exposure Mode : Auto​

White Balance : Auto​

Focal Length In 35mm Format : 26 mm​

Scene Capture Type : Standard​

Lens Info : 1.539999962-6mm f/1.8-2.4​

Lens Make : Apple​

Lens Model : iPhone 11 Pro back triple camera 4.25mm f/1.8​

Offset Schema : 4236​

GPS Latitude Ref : North​

GPS Longitude Ref : East​

GPS Altitude Ref : Above Sea Level​

GPS Speed Ref : km/h​

GPS Speed : 0​

GPS Img Direction Ref : Magnetic North​

GPS Img Direction : 121.8147851​

GPS Dest Bearing Ref : Magnetic North​

GPS Dest Bearing : 121.8147851​

GPS Horizontal Positioning Error: 165 m​

Padding : (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -b option to extract)​

Compression : JPEG (old-style)​

Thumbnail Offset : 6832​

Thumbnail Length : 7173​

IPTC Digest : d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e​

About : uuid:faf5bdd5-ba3d-11da-ad31-d33d75182f1b​

Creator Tool : Windows Photo Editor 10.0.10011.16384​

Image Width : 500​

Image Height : 375​

Encoding Process : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding​

Bits Per Sample : 8​

Color Components : 3​

Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling : YCbCr4:2:0 (2 2)​

Aperture : 1.8​

GPS Altitude : 8.7 m Above Sea Level​

GPS Latitude : 43 deg 23' 41.36" N​

GPS Longitude : 16 deg 12' 43.19" E​

GPS Position : 43 deg 23' 41.36" N, 16 deg 12' 43.19" E​

Image Size : 500x375​

Megapixels : 0.188​

Run Time Since Power Up : 5 days 14:45:34​

Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 6.1​

Shutter Speed : 1/1429​

Create Date : 2021:07:01 19:08:23.368+02:00​

Date/Time Original : 2021:07:01 19:08:23.368+02:00​

Modify Date : 2021:08:12 11:02:01+02:00​

Thumbnail Image : (Binary data 7173 bytes, use -b option to extract)​

Circle Of Confusion : 0.005 mm​

Field Of View : 69.4 deg​

Focal Length : 4.2 mm (35 mm equivalent: 26.0 mm)​

Hyperfocal Distance : 2.04 m​

Light Value : 13.8​

​

My personal circle of confusion is generally very much bigger than 0.005mm.

You got all that from my photo?
It is very very frightening ?

 

[JumbleDuck]

You got all that from my photo?
It is very very frightening ?

It's certainly a bit worrying. This is one reason why I hardly ever have "location" enabled on my phone: here are the details of a picture I took yesterday wth notable lack of GPS fields:

File Name : IMG_20210811_171811.jpg
Directory : .
File Size : 3.8 MB
File Modification Date/Time : 2021:08:11 17:18:14+01:00
File Access Date/Time : 2021:08:11 17:18:14+01:00
File Inode Change Date/Time : 2021:08:11 17:21:19+01:00
File Permissions : rwxr-----
File Type : JPEG
File Type Extension : jpg
MIME Type : image/jpeg
Exif Byte Order : Big-endian (Motorola, MM)
Camera Model Name : Nokia 2.3
Software : 00WW_3_220_SP04
Orientation : Horizontal (normal)
F Number : 2.2
Focal Length : 3.4 mm
Exposure Time : 1/20
Flash : No Flash
ISO : 361
Metering Mode : Center-weighted average
Warning : Invalid EXIF text encoding for UserComment
User Comment : {"capture_mode":"AutoModule","faces":[]}
Date/Time Original : 2021:08:11 17:18:15
White Balance : Auto
Aperture Value : 2.1
Exposure Program : Not Defined
GPS Img Direction Ref : Magnetic North
GPS Img Direction : 0
Make : HMD Global
JFIF Version : 1.01
Resolution Unit : None
X Resolution : 1
Y Resolution : 1
Image Width : 4160
Image Height : 3120
Encoding Process : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample : 8
Color Components : 3
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling : YCbCr4:2:0 (2 2)
Aperture : 2.2
Image Size : 4160x3120
Megapixels : 13.0
Shutter Speed : 1/20
Focal Length : 3.4 mm
Light Value : 4.7
​

On the bright side, in a distress situation all we have to do now is enable location and send the coastguard a picture of us doing a SOLAS-approved distress signal.