Tide software (again)

My problem is :

I don't usually go off at tangents or hijack threads ..... Ian started the thread with WXtide - its his thread and I was keeping in line.

Funny thing is that in reading all threads as I HAD already done and then read again to understand your remarks .... I still regard the thread as primarily and most importantly about WXTide ......... the fact that Beagle took the decision to inject JTides ..... just shows actually the difference and also value of WXTide in that it DOES have UK coverage.

So I shall now quietly go back to my Jam Tarts and Coffee and let you lot get on with it .....


<hr width=100% size=1>Nigel ... and of course Yahoo groups :
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If your lucky you might bump into a nice Frenchman who has a copy of a chart programme, we were given one for nothing that has the worlds charts on and chart plotting stuff and tides...keep cruising up and down the French and Spanish coast till you find a copy?

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Re: My problem is :

My excuses for the confusion by bringing JTides up. However, I just want to state that using both programs and calculating the average of both outcomes, seems to be the closest result to the real thing. Just remember that any tidal prediction program is not free of errors. Some skippers find this hard to understand :)
Perhaps due to lack of British port, the latest version of JTides is not the desirable program for UK sailors. If you're not used to run Java programs, stick to the WX program. For Mac, Linux, etc users JTides might be the program to use. Run bloody fine on my Win2000 machines as well!

Cheers, rene



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tidal predictor

Downwoads fine and installed no problem, plenty of fixed stations and you can input your own with a little bit of farting about. seems reasonable accurate but will keep using the tables anyway.

I think it needs a bit of fine tuning to set up your own station / port but will keep playing. Good help files if one reads such things - I normally don't until I have to and with this software I had to.

"Have looked at it and it has 44 UK stations in it ....... so what is this about Netherlands ?? "

Look under Europe then select Netherlands - 40 stations listed.

Did someone mention reading the instructions?

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Netherlands

That comment referred to another post where they were going off onto Jtides ..... having nothing to do really with original start of this thread ...

I know WXTides - used it for years ....


<hr width=100% size=1>Nigel ... and of course Yahoo groups :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gps-navigator/
 
No problem ...

I fully agree with using as many sources of info as possible. WXTide is not the be all and end all of tides ..... in fact often has variance with other sources especially tabulated.
My form of sailing is very casual - except in Estonia where I race etc. But then tides are not a problem ....

There are many good tide products aout there - one very good one is Belfield ..... small cost for a legal UKHO data set etc. The Dutch HO produces a very good one as well. And not forgetting - YBW actually reproduces 14 day tables which you can use to check before leaving home ....

Having tried out, tested and used many different - WXTide receives my thumbs up. If I spent more time in UK - I would buy Belfield as my first choice.

Adm NP159 - which is the grandaddy of em 'all - is not worth the effort anymore and sadly well behind the times in user friendliness.

Finally - there is a French Tide program out there that is the absolute pits ....... I can't remeber its name - but I cannot see where it gets it info from ...... data given out is well in a world of its own......


<hr width=100% size=1>Nigel ... and of course Yahoo groups :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gps-navigator/
 
On a slightly diff. note ....

Have just downloaded TideTool for the Palm ...... first I thought - gimmick ! But it actually works well - even on my basic Palm V ......

OK some times are a little different - but aren't they all ?



<hr width=100% size=1>Nigel ... and of course Yahoo groups :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gps-navigator/
 
Maybe they aren't using UKHO harmonic data in this version.

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The txt file on the site ...

Talks about the IHO was NOT disbanded and that they were still active etc. Now the site doesn't actually say the UKHO was out of line with calling Data their property after IHO stopped authorising use of by other parties ....

Funny you go to other sites and they state that IHO is still going and allows use of various data - but UKHO is a different matter..... funny that one site mentions that UK ports are allowed - but such as Irish are not ..........

Seems that a lot of confusion is around .....

Onto the Palm V software I've just installed - they make a big claim that it comes from Oceanographic people in Liverpool and NOT UKHO ...... so maybe its possible to get data from other sources ? Checking the data for today - they do not agree though ..... Palm and WXTide ..... not too far apart - but still does not appear to be same data base ....


<hr width=100% size=1>Nigel ... and of course Yahoo groups :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gps-navigator/
 
UK Tides on WXTide

The fascists from the UKHO finally caught up with me and I had to remove WXTide32 from my server. It is now replaced with WXTide4.0 which does, as pointed out in this rather convoluted thread, contain data for 44 UK stations. This is not using the UKHO 'copyright' harmonic constants. If you want to read how the UK data was derived without upsetting UKHO go <font size=1><A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.bluemoment.com>http://www.bluemoment.com</font size=1>
 
Server - itis

They caught you as well ????? I had a e-mail from them requiring all versions of WXTide to be removed from servers in my care ......

I did ask them why 'older' versions that pre-dated the IHO suspension of 'free-use' were to be removed ..... their asnwer was suitably vague but - Copyright ........

I shall now consider my position ref. WXTide 4


<hr width=100% size=1>Nigel ... and of course Yahoo groups :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gps-navigator/
 
Correction ....

The Palm and WXTide on checking again are pretty close - so I assume that they use the Proudman - Liverpool base both.

Anyway - good to see WXTide back again and as always most of us will have a copy of UKHO tables somewhere - I usually try and find the cards from Chandlers etc. - as well as other electronic forms .... Belfield etc.



<hr width=100% size=1>Nigel ... and of course Yahoo groups :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gps-navigator/
 
Re: Correction ....

I use Tide Tool and I think it is pretty good. I have a Treo 600 palm phone and it works wonderfully in colour. It does have a limited number of ports but we know why that is, but you can download the data for most counties.

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