geem
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But once the sails are you, they are up for hours. You don't sit on the throne all day do you?
Those electric conversion toilets are not worth it
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Elessar
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Good point well made.But once the sails are you, they are up for hours. You don't sit on the throne all day do you?
There are plenty of things I’d depriioritise before the loo though even if not the sails.
When looking for a new boat a £5k allowance for refit was made on every non tecma boat.
Anyone who doesn’t get that hasn’t had one.
Chiara’s slave
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On the boat, not so. I quite often go sailing without taking a dump, and in any case, hoist the sails at least once a day. Though I’m not sure why I’m telling you this, of if you really need to know
Dockhead
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5. No more bad smells.
6. Much better for the marine environment
7. Much easier to use for landlubbers and less intimidating to them; economy of instruction time.
8. Much more reliable and robust.
geem
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1. We don't get bad smells.
2. Same impact on the environment as your electric bog.
3. Landlubbers on our boat have bigger muscles and get a work out.
4. Far, far more reliable and robust. No electricity needed
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snowbird30ds
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I'm confused, isn't a full turd easier to spot and swim around than a finely chopped mush of turd?
I can't see there's really a difference between the two options.
Chiara’s slave
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5k for a bog? That’s 70% of a mainsail. I have now consulted Mrs C, she’d prefer to have new sails.Good point well made.
There are plenty of things I’d depriioritise before the loo though even if not the sails.
When looking for a new boat a £5k allowance for refit was made on every non tecma boat.
Anyone who doesn’t get that hasn’t had one.
GEM43
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Well that's it then, no need for further discussion!
Dockhead
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"2. Same impact on the environment as your electric bog." No indeed -- maceration makes a huge difference on how waste is broken down in the marine environment.
"4. Far, far more reliable and robust. No electricity needed" Not a Jabsco manual flimsy toy-like toilet. Maybe if you have a Crittendon-Wilcox Skipper, or something like that. But even that is not more reliable than a Tecma or Planus.
And if you lose electrical power on board, you've got much bigger problems than flushing the toilet.
PaulRainbow
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A Tecma or Planus isn't £5K, they are about £1k each. Elessars £5k figure would be for multiple bogs, including fitting and an overhaul of the plumbing, i guess.
You rag and stick merchants need to appreciate that us posh motorboat owners have multiple heads, all with nice electric bogs, proper showers, heated towel rails, hair dryers and some even have bidets (we don't have a bidet, but the shower is close enough, you just have to be careful with the aim)
Sticky Fingers
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Yup. All of that’s true. Friend even has a bath in his mobo en-suite.
But FYI I spent 3k changing the OEM Jabsco pumperdumpers on my last but-one-boat which was a 42’ sailing yacht. Put in Tecma plus freshwater flush. Happy wife. … etc.
But FYI I spent 3k changing the OEM Jabsco pumperdumpers on my last but-one-boat which was a 42’ sailing yacht. Put in Tecma plus freshwater flush. Happy wife. … etc.
geem
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Lavac. Same cost as a Jabsco manual. Infinitely more robust.
Total power loss is one thing. Motor failure, macerator failure are two things you don't have with a manual pump.
Do you think a macerator pump is the only thing that chews up Sh1t? A diaphragm pump is very capable, especially when flushed at high velocity by a high performance manual pump. At the end of the day, whether the shit is big lumps or small lumps. The environment has still recieved the same volume of shit
Chiara’s slave
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I do appreciate that this electric bog thing is a class issue. Us steerage class raggies cannot help our humble birth you know. We have to swim in God’s salt bath to get clean, and pump our own sh1te. We save money on diesel too. It’s a tough life.A Tecma or Planus isn't £5K, they are about £1k each. Elessars £5k figure would be for multiple bogs, including fitting and an overhaul of the plumbing, i guess.
You rag and stick merchants need to appreciate that us posh motorboat owners have multiple heads, all with nice electric bogs, proper showers, heated towel rails, hair dryers and some even have bidets (we don't have a bidet, but the shower is close enough, you just have to be careful with the aim)
PaulRainbow
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The macerator pump in our forward cabin en-suite (one of our multiple heads) is many years old and still works fine (does sound a bit like a cement mixer though). The macerator in our day heads (another one of our multiple heads) did have to be replaced, because some idiot fitted the seal that keeps the liquidised turds out of the motor the wrong way round. It seems electric motors and macerated turds are not compatible. That said, having multiple heads, we're not in the shit if one packs up
Chiara’s slave
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A cement mixer? Cut down on the bran flakes, I think.The macerator pump in our forward cabin en-suite (one of our multiple heads) is many years old and still works fine (does sound a bit like a cement mixer though). The macerator in our day heads (another one of our multiple heads) did have to be replaced, because some idiot fitted the seal that keeps the liquidised turds out of the motor the wrong way round. It seems electric motors and macerated turds are not compatible. That said, having multiple heads, we're not in the shit if one packs up
geem
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Our boat had the lecky bogs removed by the previous owner. Something I am quite happy about. The problem was he fitted Jabsco manual junk.now well and truely binned.A Tecma or Planus isn't £5K, they are about £1k each. Elessars £5k figure would be for multiple bogs, including fitting and an overhaul of the plumbing, i guess.
You rag and stick merchants need to appreciate that us posh motorboat owners have multiple heads, all with nice electric bogs, proper showers, heated towel rails, hair dryers and some even have bidets (we don't have a bidet, but the shower is close enough, you just have to be careful with the aim)
We do have a proper thermostatic shower, hair dryer, ice machine, mattress coolers, freezer, two fridges, electric galley, so we aren't roughing it
We also don't need ear defenders when we flush the loo! Some of the luxury motor boats in have been on have the loudest crappers on the planet
Rappey
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Reading this thread shows how opinions differ on whats best. Do any of these electric toilets have manual as well?
Im going to ruin it now by mentioning the baby blake.. but there is a relevance as the blake can now be electrified while still retaining its manual function , but at an eye watering price..
Im going to ruin it now by mentioning the baby blake.. but there is a relevance as the blake can now be electrified while still retaining its manual function , but at an eye watering price..
Chiara’s slave
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Ha ha, well a Dragonfly probably is at the hair shirt end of sailing.
Dockhead
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Well, I hadn't said anything against Lavac. Another perfectly reasonable solution, if eccentrically quirky.Lavac. Same cost as a Jabsco manual. Infinitely more robust.
Total power loss is one thing. Motor failure, macerator failure are two things you don't have with a manual pump.
Do you think a macerator pump is the only thing that chews up Sh1t? A diaphragm pump is very capable, especially when flushed at high velocity by a high performance manual pump. At the end of the day, whether the shit is big lumps or small lumps. The environment has still recieved the same volume of shit
