prv
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2 x 20litre jerrycans - check.
Only problem is that my submersible transfer pump doesn't quite fit through the jerrycan openings, and the filler is in an awkward position to pour directly.
Pete
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2 x 20litre jerrycans - check.
Only problem is that my submersible transfer pump doesn't quite fit through the jerrycan openings, and the filler is in an awkward position to pour directly.
Pete
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A bit of hose and syphon it perhaps?
lustyd
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And the problem that Asda sell road diesel which has biofuel in, making it more likely to cause bug in your tank.
ricky_s
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They've been doing that to petrol boats for years!
prv
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That's what I've done in the past, but it's still awkward, messy and diesel-flavoured
I should probably get one of those jiggle-tubes or the ones with the plastic bellows.
Pete
prv
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Well, as it happens we generally buy our fuel from the Itchen Marine Towage barge. Just saying, I do have the capability to fill up with road fuel if required. Given the amount of fuel I actually use, the odd few pence per litre here and there makes little difference.
Pete
Quandary
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Yes, convenience is as important as price, so the marinas can continue to milk the goat. But a price range of more than 50p. a litre between one place and another shows that some of them are certainly taking of full advantage, but then we are yachties and there to be exploited; twas ever thus!
It must be very tempting to add 50p when they can get away with it so easily, that is £5K on a 10,000 litre order but it is only £100 quid or so extra on my seasons fuel bill.
Forest Girl
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Queen Anne's Battery marina in Plymouth (MDL) charges berth holders around 97p/litre. The rest pay 1.34 ish if I recall. I'm sure we all remember paying 23p not 10 years ago. What do commercial (fishermen, dive boats, charterers etc)guys pay? I bet it's less than 97p!
prv
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My understanding is that those with obscenely large mobos tend to get fuel delivered by truck, which allows them to shop around to some extent rather than be tied to the pumps where they happen to be berthed. Guess that only really works on quaysides rather than marinas, but if you're buying such insane quantities of fuel you'd be prepared to shift around a bit for a saving.
Pete
aquaplane
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I got a spout that clips on a jerry can in a similar way to the can lid, IIRC £5 from Lidl, not much anyway.
With a full can you have to pour it with confidence and hit the fuel filler 1st time, any dithering and you are sure to miss, then stick the flexy bit down the filler pipe and it just glugs away 'till empty. I have used a big funnel but there is much more scope for glugging and splashing so it's generally less messy without.
Niander
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IF you have an older diesel engine try mixing in a bit of veg oil
my vw van runs great on 60% veg oil from aldis £1.19 L
i dont suggest 60% at first but i bet you wouldn't even notice it was in there
my vw van runs great on 60% veg oil from aldis £1.19 L
i dont suggest 60% at first but i bet you wouldn't even notice it was in there
Woodlouse
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You might not be alone. But from my understanding the tax on road fuel is levied to be spent on the roads. I don't see why boats should contribute to the maintenance of the highways?
As for it being a special mix I think you may be wrong. These days I believe that diesel is mixed with biofuels which actually increase the likelihood of diesel bug. The engineers at Mylor were quite vocal on the problem when a boat there turned out to have a major problem.
Applescruffs
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A taxing Issue ?
Diesel certainly seems as cheap at Tesco's... buy five tins of cat food or what-ever and get another 5p /ltr off....OK I appreciate that you may not be able to get your 30 footer onto the forecourt.... but ''hey'' that's your problem !!
On a serious note...I recently had a case of Diesel bug and after removing most of it I treated the remainder in the tank with...whatever it was from Marinestore...all seems ok to date ...but I had syphoned most of the contaminated , and subsequently treated, diesel into a 25 ltr container...this looks kinda 'reddish'.....would you take a chance and put it into your car....and yes......my car 'is' a Diesel!
There is a goodly percentage of 'tax paid' Diesel already in there so it's more 'pink' than 'red'..... I don't want to waste this and I would rather put this into my car tank than the boat as I think that the consequences in a car would , at most, be inconvenient...but in a boat.l..well who knows?
Any one from HMG Excises and Customs tuned in for guidance?
Diesel certainly seems as cheap at Tesco's... buy five tins of cat food or what-ever and get another 5p /ltr off....OK I appreciate that you may not be able to get your 30 footer onto the forecourt.... but ''hey'' that's your problem !!
On a serious note...I recently had a case of Diesel bug and after removing most of it I treated the remainder in the tank with...whatever it was from Marinestore...all seems ok to date ...but I had syphoned most of the contaminated , and subsequently treated, diesel into a 25 ltr container...this looks kinda 'reddish'.....would you take a chance and put it into your car....and yes......my car 'is' a Diesel!
There is a goodly percentage of 'tax paid' Diesel already in there so it's more 'pink' than 'red'..... I don't want to waste this and I would rather put this into my car tank than the boat as I think that the consequences in a car would , at most, be inconvenient...but in a boat.l..well who knows?
Any one from HMG Excises and Customs tuned in for guidance?
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Gwylan
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Killer diesel price
Got hammered by Torquay for a fill up - and the top up in Falmouth was almost as bad.
Then the chaps in St Mary's really did a job on us. Really mugged over the price of the gas refill too!
Really relieved that I only have to fuel a sail boat.
Got hammered by Torquay for a fill up - and the top up in Falmouth was almost as bad.
Then the chaps in St Mary's really did a job on us. Really mugged over the price of the gas refill too!
Really relieved that I only have to fuel a sail boat.
lustyd
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I think the duty just goes in a big pot these days rather than specifically going to roads.
That's basically what I was trying to say - the marine stuff by virtue of not having the additive is special and therefore has to be stored and transported separately so could cost more as a result.
prv
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The problem is that these jerrycans aren't the traditional military pattern, and have a simple screw cap rather than the clamp arrangement that a spout could clip onto.
A cheap pump-assisted siphon is the obvious answer, just need to get round to acquiring one.
Pete
crisjones
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I know it is not relevant to most UK sailors, but we got 300ltrs of diesel in St Sampsons, Guernsey, direct from a tanker on the quayside at 57p p l. The marina were charging 72p. All perfectly legal and no doubt used by a lot of S Coast large powerboats.
As for syphoning diesel into boat tank - just use the dinghy pump. Position jerrycan on deck, put syphon hose in jerrycan and tank, put end of dinghy pump hose just in the neck of jerrycan, hold a rag as tightly as you can around the top of the jerrycan and the two pipes, give the dinghy pump a couple of pumps and hey presto the pressure in the jerrycan is enough to force diesel into the syphon pipe and start the syphon action.
Always works a treat for me, no mouthful of diesel or messy splashes on deck. Best to use a syphon hose of clear plastic so you can see what is going on but not essential.
As for syphoning diesel into boat tank - just use the dinghy pump. Position jerrycan on deck, put syphon hose in jerrycan and tank, put end of dinghy pump hose just in the neck of jerrycan, hold a rag as tightly as you can around the top of the jerrycan and the two pipes, give the dinghy pump a couple of pumps and hey presto the pressure in the jerrycan is enough to force diesel into the syphon pipe and start the syphon action.
Always works a treat for me, no mouthful of diesel or messy splashes on deck. Best to use a syphon hose of clear plastic so you can see what is going on but not essential.
