The serious danger of the wrong diesel heater exhaust fitted.

[Bandit]

I came across this worrying video the yacht surveyor Ben Sutcliffe about cheap diesel heater exhausts sometimes used on boats, scary stuff.

 

[Tamar]

Great advice. The thing to do is buy the cheap heater then spend quite a bit of money on decent ancillary stuff like exhaust systems and insulation. There are some good videos on YouTube of safe installation of these cheap heaters

 

[Bigplumbs]

This was covered in my diesel heater thread. The supplied exhaust is for external use typically in a camper van. There are correct exhausts and skin fittings on eBay specifically to overcome this issue

 

[Greg2]

If the exhausts are so shoddy it does raise the question about the quality of the heaters themselves. I haven't got one so can’t comment but I would be a little wary if I was in the market.

 

[Bigplumbs]

If the exhausts are so shoddy it does raise the question about the quality of the heaters themselves. I haven't got one so can’t comment but I would be a little wary if I was in the market.

there is nothing wrong with the heaters I have 4 and I can assure you they are excellent. As I said those exhausts are for mounting outside generally underneath a camper van. Buy one and try it out you will see for yourself They are about £100

 

[Bigplumbs]

If the exhausts are so shoddy it does raise the question about the quality of the heaters themselves. I haven't got one so can’t comment but I would be a little wary if I was in the market.

But you did comment ?

 

[Bigplumbs]

This was covered in my diesel heater thread. The supplied exhaust is for external use typically in a camper van. There are correct exhausts and skin fittings on eBay specifically to overcome this issue for boat use.

 

[westernman]

Please what ever you do, install a carbon monoxide alarm.

The parents of my in-laws were saved by such an alarm. The gas powered central heating system had just had its obligatory annual service.
They were woken up early in the morning by the alarm. They were taken to hospital for a check over with head-aches and had mild carbon monoxide poisoning.

If they had not been woken up by the alarm, they would now be dead.

 

[Bigplumbs]

Please what ever you do, install a carbon monoxide alarm.

The parents of my in-laws were saved by such an alarm. The gas powered central heating system had just had its obligatory annual service.
They were woken up early in the morning by the alarm. They were taken to hospital for a check over with head-aches and had mild carbon monoxide poisoning.

If they had not been woken up by the alarm, they would now be dead.

top advice and also press the button from time to time while protecting your ears ? to make sure the batteries are ok

 

[Portofino]

Is there a recognised professional body to oversee this stuff ?
As a comparison GORGI ( sp ? ) gas fitters for domestic U.K. gas appliances ?
I know with tenanted properties in the U.K. you need an annual gas cert and yes as Westerman says a functional CO alarm to rent out said property.

Bigplumbs ought to know any house / building DIY electrical works needs a certified electrician from ( insert date ? ) to instal .
Esp if rented and the buyers solicitor via surveys will be searching for the relevant paperwork at sale time of any new electrical instals ..

On the same vein in Switzerland for example every 20 yrs you get a gov inspection of the property and list of updating to current safety standards ( as stds change as time moves on ) .You have 3 months to comply otherwise are barred from living in said dwelling .Ok it’s a 20 y interval but the point is officialdom catches up on bodges and out date standards .

Any gas and CO generating device on a boat ought to have some sort of authority to inspect and regularly certify it .
End of all this semi speculative scare stories and reassurance that theses Chinese 100 quid DIY jobbies arn‘t lethal.

 

[Bigplumbs]

Is there a recognised professional body to oversee this stuff ?
As a comparison GORGI ( sp ? ) gas fitters for domestic U.K. gas appliances ?
I know with tenanted properties in the U.K. you need an annual gas cert and yes as Westerman says a functional CO alarm to rent out said property.

Bigplumbs ought to know any house / building DIY electrical works needs a certified electrician from ( insert date ? ) to instal .
Esp if rented and the buyers solicitor via surveys will be searching for the relevant paperwork at sale time of any new electrical instals ..

On the same vein in Switzerland for example every 20 yrs you get a gov inspection of the property and list of updating to current safety standards ( as stds change as time moves on ) .You have 3 months to comply otherwise are barred from living in said dwelling .Ok it’s a 20 y interval but the point is officialdom catches up on bodges and out date standards .

Any gas and CO generating device on a boat ought to have some sort of authority to inspect and regularly certify it .
End of all this semi speculative scare stories and reassurance that theses Chinese 100 quid DIY jobbies arn‘t lethal.

I give up

 

[Portofino]

Is not refrigeration gases wrapped up in officialdom ? In the sense only registered engineers with the right training and kit are legally allowed to handle the stuff ?

Something like this regulate them .

 

[Bigplumbs]

Is not refrigeration gases wrapped up in officialdom ? In the sense only registered engineers with the right training and kit are legally allowed to handle the stuff ?

Something like this regulate them .

If I light a match perhaps the match needs regulating and someone standing by to make sure I don’t put it in my eye. We already have a nanny state and far too much regulation we don’t need more geeeesh

 

[Portofino]

I give up

On what ?

Plugging a safety loop hole ?

Tenanted U.K. properties gas appliances ( CO generation pov ) are regulated ……seems reasonable to me .
Thats a leaky from air tightness pov pile of bricks + motor never mind a huge piece of impermeable plastic aka a boat .

 

[Bigplumbs]

Is not refrigeration gases wrapped up in officialdom ? In the sense only registered engineers with the right training and kit are legally allowed to handle the stuff ?

Something like this regulate them .

look up the legal principle behind An Englishman’s home is his castle. And you might understand

 

[Bigplumbs]

On what ?

Plugging a safety loop hole ?

Tenanted U.K. properties gas appliances ( CO generation pov ) are regulated ……seems reasonable to me .
Thats a leaky from air tightness pov pile of bricks + motor never mind a huge piece of impermeable plastic aka a boat .

I work closely with many so called checkers and regulators and sadly I know the reality and truth

 

[Bigplumbs]

Porto Also look up the meaning of Go off on a Tangent

 

[Portofino]

If I light a match perhaps the match needs regulating and someone standing by to make sure I don’t put it in my eye. We already have a nanny state and far too much regulation we don’t need more geeeesh

You mean a few MPs having a after work drink in a garden during lockdown , oiling the wheels of government…….getting into trouble ?
Is that the nanny state you refer to ?

 

[Portofino]

Porto Also look up the meaning of Go off on a Tangent

No tangent .
When that word pops up it usually means they ( you ) disagree in a defeated kinda way .
Thanks btw .

As said CO a generating device in a sealed tub ( boat ) needs regulating ……both the instal + maintenance.
Its only a matter of time before it comes rolling down the tracks inho .

I have given a raft of safety related regulation examples to illustrate.

As far you home / castle statement ……as said any DIY electrical instals without certification will wash out at sale time if the buyers surveyor picks them up or indeed the buyer solicitors will ask you to sign a document referring - tick box to any modification( s) .You risk further come back if you falsely those documents.

 

[Bigplumbs]

No tangent .
When that word pops up it usually means they ( you ) disagree in a defeated kinda way .
Thanks btw .

As said CO a generating device in a sealed tub ( boat ) needs regulating ……both the instal + maintenance.
Its only a matter of time before it comes rolling down the tracks inho .

I have given a raft of safety related regulation examples to illustrate.

As far you home / castle statement ……as said any DIY electrical instals without certification will wash out at sale time if the buyers surveyor picks them up or indeed the buyer solicitors will ask you to sign a document referring - tick box to any modification( s) .You risk further come back if you falsely those documents.

oh dear oh dear………..So that is the end of the DIY market B and Q’s all over the Country will have to close and be replaced with checkers and regulators and of course Solicitors