The Ramsholt Arms

Just looked at the menu for the Maybush at Waldringfield another one of Deben Inns and at £10 for lasagne, fish and chips or a burger I won't be rushing there!!

IMO, there's more to a good meal than just the price.
I'd rather pay a tenner for say a home-made lasagne than £7 for a half-defrosted chicken tika of which the nicest possible thing I could say is that it was borderline edible.
We don't eat out often, but when we do we look for something more than just sustenance - we'd like a nice meal.
 
We don't eat out often, but when we do we look for something more than just sustenance - we'd like a nice meal.

Precisely, which is why I wouldn't chose something I know I (or the Mrs) can cook at home perfectly well!

Agree the ambiance, setting etc all have a part to play and you are paying for the service. I want different things - game in season, different fish (not in batter / crumbs), decent pastry (I can't do pastry and Mrs isn't much better) that we do not have at home. I am happy, from time to time, paying £15 maybe £20 for a main course if it is high quality and different.

If I need sustenance I have that in plenty on the boat!
 
Just got some reliable news about the Arms

[Piss up tonight, Patrick out and locks changed in morning,his lease has expired.

At present I understand no takers for the pub and Deben Inns unable to accept terms.

Looks like a dry April but a cheap one.]
 
I agree about the paying for what you get bit. The burgers at Pin Mill are excellent value even at a tenner, as they were proper thick beef, and second the Whale and Chips at the Maybush. My experience at the Arms was that the prices were even more eye watering for food that looked worse than either of the above... Hope it does get a new owner soom though, we can do without losing another waterside hostelry
 
As a mooring holder it would be nice to have a vibrant pub with value food and drink on the spot again.
Unfortunately the last few years under Patrick and Elizabeth's stewardship have been painful, and the last year or so with neither of them actually in regular attendance pretty awful.
Its a wonderful location but must be the devil of a place to make pay. Veering from the day in the wonderful summer of 2003 when Patrick said they served almost 500 covers, to the occasion in 1985 when I visited by road in the middle of August to find my family of 4 joined by the crew of one Dutch yacht peering out of the window into the pouring rain.

Unlike the Maybush and the other river pubs on the Ipswich side it doesn't get the weekday lunchtime trade, and during the winter only a few hardy regulars, who during the summer pop up out of the undergrowth at about 19.00 after the visitors have gone.
Totally reliant on a good summer trade.
Nightmare really, which is why it has slipped in and out of direct management by TABS over the last 30 years.
 
A lot of rural pubs are struggling.

In my village (Yoxford) when I arrived in '99 there were 3 pubs. The one on the A12 was a struggler. The 2 in the village itself were reasonably busy (1 had a restaurant attached & did B&B, the other was more for the 'locals').

Now, the A12 one has been revitalised somewhat after several changes of occupant. The restaurant one with B&B has also changed hands a few times and was closed for a period of time in 2011/12 - I think the new occupants will find it hard to make it pay - but good luck to them. The third 'locals' pub (Adnams) has been sold and is now a smart private house.

Here's some footage of the A12 pub (the Kings Head) back in the heyday of the village pub in 1962

http://www.eafa.org.uk/catalogue/115807
 
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