The Raggie Motto "Power gives way to sail"

[thomshap]

What a fatuous thread, trying to drive a wedge between moboists and sailors that shouldn't be and needn't be there.

You are right, there is no need, the raggies are doing a perfectly good job on there own.

I do both, when I'm a raggies the other raggies seem pleasant enough but when I jump in a motor boat they just give me filthy looks and get in the way - bit of a generalisation I guess, the bav/ben/jen lot seem ok.

 

[Sandyman]

You could do with a new drum to bang Daka, this tune is monotonous & too silly for words. Why is YOUR inconvenience so important?

Searush you know the answer to your question

 

[Lakesailor]

Some people seem to be taking this all a bit seriously

 

[l'escargot]

At least it's put the post count up even if it's taken a few raggies to do it

 

[SteveE]

Not always....

 

[SteveE]

Same boat same regatta....

 

[dabsolute470]

what a numpty

 

[Lakesailor]

Them steering wheels on big boats can be very hard to turn.

 

[Flying Penguin]

Not always....

A well lobbed winch handle might be a worthy sacrifice for the cause of maintaining numpty relations

 

[SteveE]

what a numpty

we had d/w on the vhf and were listening to the regatta banter, it was a good job we were no where near them otherwise I am sure they would have taken their anger out on us!!!

 

[l'escargot]

Worst possible combination - a mobo who is also a member of the Royal Yacht Squadron!!

 

[Cardo]

I'd like to know when the colregs stopped applying to those under sail!

More than once I've been happily sailing around the Solent on starboard tack and been cut up by numpties on port tack. The last time this happened they even waved at me as I hove to to avoid a collision!

Madness!

Motto - "Sail gives way to no one"?

 

[DAKA]

Same boat same regatta....

Interesting photo, at first glance its easy to think the mobo has gone too close to the sailing boat but........................

When you take a closer look it appears the mobo has realized the sailing boat has his engine running and the mobo correctly stands on.

So the question should be, why hasnt the sailing boat got his motoring cone raised

(Note the engine cooling water starboard quarter.)

 

[l'escargot]

Interesting photo, at first glance its easy to think the mobo has gone too close to the sailing boat but........................

When you take a closer look it appears the mobo has realized the sailing boat has his engine running and the mobo correctly stands on.

So the question should be, why hasnt the sailing boat got his motoring cone raised

(Note the engine cooling water starboard quarter.)

Nice try but no coconut Pete - thought you would have known this one.

You only need to hoist a cone when you are being propelled by your motor, not just because you have your engine running. As he hasn't got a cone hoisted he is clearly sailing and the motorboat has contravened colregs by standing on.

 

[bedouin]

Interesting
When you take a closer look it appears the mobo has realized the sailing boat has his engine running and the mobo correctly stands on.

Probably not - it becomes a power driven vessel when the engine is in gear, not when the engine is running but not in gear. If the engine were in gear you would expect a more disturbed wake than there appears to be in that picture.

 

[oceanfroggie]

This thread demonstrates the futility of troll consistency

Mobo/Raggie thing is Soooooo boooooring. Z z z z z.

 

[Andydent2000]

Blimey. It's all getting a bit intense isn't it?

I thought the col regs were all about safety. A bit like the highway code?

The problem is when the boats involved don't do what you expect them to...

As a general rule where yachts are involved and there is room I make a clear course alteration to avoid. It's not worth the hassle. But if there is no sea room I slow down and watch em like a hawke. If necessary I stop and let them make of it what they will.

The all stems from an altercation with a yacht just outside Portishead. He was on motor with sails down and aimed straight for me. I guess to get me to slow down so he could enter the sea lock first. With a pier just off my starboard side I had nowhere to go and no choice but to stop engines. His excuse when challenged? He's a yacht and has right of way. But does that give him the right to endanger by vessel?

 

[Robin]

Blimey. It's all getting a bit intense isn't it?

I thought the col regs were all about safety. A bit like the highway code?

The problem is when the boats involved don't do what you expect them to...

As a general rule where yachts are involved and there is room I make a clear course alteration to avoid. It's not worth the hassle. But if there is no sea room I slow down and watch em like a hawke. If necessary I stop and let them make of it what they will.

The all stems from an altercation with a yacht just outside Portishead. He was on motor with sails down and aimed straight for me. I guess to get me to slow down so he could enter the sea lock first. With a pier just off my starboard side I had nowhere to go and no choice but to stop engines. His excuse when challenged? He's a yacht and has right of way. But does that give him the right to endanger by vessel?

In that case no sails and engine on the yacht is a mobo not a sailboat and a prat to boot. Strictly speaking statistically however he should be counted as a mobo.

 

[Cardo]

He was on motor with sails down

His excuse when challenged? He's a yacht and has right of way.

*sigh* I'm amazed by people who have no grasp of the col regs however have heard "yachts have priority" and stick to it, unknowing that as soon as they're motoring, they no longer have priority.

Whilst it's kind of nice that boating isn't regulated to death in this country (no requirement for licence, etc.) sometimes I wonder whether that is such a sensible approach?

 

[The swede]

Shouldn't the rule be that the most nimble one moves over?

I have a small outboard speedboat and if I see a much larger boat, or a sailing boat, I just pass behind him or accelerate so I am well ahead of him.

Cargo vessels always have priority on pleasure craft, if I'm not wrong ?