l'escargot
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Aren't you then contributing to the problem by behaving in such an unexpected way?
The Raggie Motto "Power gives way to sail"
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oldgit
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A lesson to us all.
The other 99.9999999999999999 of us who actually enjoy our boating are now feeling so grateful that we are simply not wealthy enuff to boat in the arse end of England and promise to be happy we are poor and never ever complain about anything ever again.
The other 99.9999999999999999 of us who actually enjoy our boating are now feeling so grateful that we are simply not wealthy enuff to boat in the arse end of England and promise to be happy we are poor and never ever complain about anything ever again.
DownWest
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This might turn into a licencing thread..... Oh Goody! (I don't think)
DAKA
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Called boooooooring by a Broom owner, oh the shame
That's a bit unfair, its nice that the trolls from scuttlebutts feel comfortable to come across to the mobo forum and interrupt an otherwise serious debate.
You dont have to read a thread you get bored with let alone post on it .
Anyway if you are still reading there is one very serious fact that can be deduced from the contributions ...................... the Raggies really dont appear to be able to distinguish between the raggies moto 'power gives way to sail' and the actual col regs
This thread demonstrates the futility of troll consistency
Mobo/Raggie thing is Soooooo boooooring. Z z z z z.
That's a bit unfair, its nice that the trolls from scuttlebutts feel comfortable to come across to the mobo forum and interrupt an otherwise serious debate.
You dont have to read a thread you get bored with let alone post on it .
Anyway if you are still reading there is one very serious fact that can be deduced from the contributions ...................... the Raggies really dont appear to be able to distinguish between the raggies moto 'power gives way to sail' and the actual col regs
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rbcoomer
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Anyway if you are still reading there is one very serious fact that can be deduced from the contributions ...................... the Raggies really dont appear to be able to distinguish between the raggies moto 'power gives way to sail' and the actual col regs
Even from my limited water wanderings I think I could say with confidence that there's a sizable section of both mobo's & raggies that either don't know or selectively ignore! It was one of the things that worried me most when I got the boat, but the better I understand the regs, the more I realise that they're ignored by a significant section of the community.
DAKA
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If he isnt motoring how do you explain that he is pointing 20' better into the wind than the boat on the same tack in the distance under the anchor
l'escargot
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If he isnt motoring how do you explain that he is pointing 20' better into the wind than the boat on the same tack in the distance under the anchor
2 reasons:
1 Under colregs he can't be considered to be motoring because he isn't displaying a cone so he must be treated as a sailing boat
and
2 he is pointing higher as he is having to luff up to avoid the motorboat who is clearly ignorant of colregs as in 1 above.
l'escargot
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Good job we do otherwise this thread would have died days ago....That's a bit unfair, its nice that the trolls from scuttlebutts feel comfortable to come across to the mobo forum and interrupt an otherwise serious debate.
Andydent2000
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And aren't you taking my quote out of context? So what you're saying is it's ok for me to plough on regardless safe on the knowledge that if I am t-boned by a raggie under power it's ok 'cause I had right of way? Try that on the queens highway and see what the police say....
The swede
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Why this debate? There is more than enough space on the water. If you look ahead, you have plenty of time to judge other boats' courses, whether they're sailing or motoring and even the smallest change of course will get you well out of eachother's way.
ricky_s
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There isn't always that much room on the south coast, especially summer weekends.
Cardo
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You should give Lake Solent a go!
l'escargot
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I think you need to have a read of colregs if you are basing your judgements on "right of way" and they don't have any relevance on the queen's highway. As you allude to in your post we all need to behave in a predictable manner and everyone operating within colregs gives that predictability - individuals just stopping dead to let someone else "make of it what they will" because of some previous altercation can be an unpredicatable action that could then lead to unforeseen problems.
l'escargot
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It is just as achievable on the Solent - there are actually surprisingly few collisions considering the number of boats that are out there so most people seem to manage it. I wouldn't underestimate it as a lake either, I don't think there are many lakes with the tides, channels and hazards that the Solent has.
DAKA
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No I wish people wouldnt be little the river solent sailors...........
Tide
goes in and out.
Channels
loads of them, CG 16 and 67, QHM 11, Port Solent 80
Hazards
Scumsail yachts, Bramble Bank races, Cowes, Bavarias with bits dropping off
And the Raggies motto 'power gives way to sail ' has been adopted as local colregs
, here we go again ricky_s
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And the Raggies motto 'power gives way to sail ' has been adopted as local colregs
You are a bad man DAKA!
Andydent2000
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Actually what I said was if necessary. There is a big difference.
bedouin
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Don't forget the hazard of all the MOBOs who ignore the speed limitNo I wish people wouldnt be little the river solent sailors...........
Tide
goes in and out.
Channels
loads of them, CG 16 and 67, QHM 11, Port Solent 80
Hazards
Scumsail yachts, Bramble Bank races, Cowes, Bavarias with bits dropping off
And the Raggies motto 'power gives way to sail ' has been adopted as local colregs
DAKA
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Don't forget the hazard of all the MOBOs who ignore the speed limit
Ignore is a bit unfair, I think most mobos are very concious of speed limits and speed with caution maintaining extra look outs for HMs and police ribs.
l'escargot
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No I wish people wouldnt be little the river solent sailors...........
Tide
goes in and out.
Channels
loads of them, CG 16 and 67, QHM 11, Port Solent 80
Hazards
Scumsail yachts, Bramble Bank races, Cowes, Bavarias with bits dropping off
And the Raggies motto 'power gives way to sail ' has been adopted as local colregs
I hope that isn't typical of the average mobo's understanding of tides, channels and hazards. If it is no wonder so many of them get themselves in a mess!