The Polish maritime authorities have tightened requirements

[Fr J Hackett]

I can't see that it would affect your insurance. There must be plenty owners who've changed address post registration. The only thing is to be sure you give accurate information to the insurance company.

Insurance is a minefield, if as is often your insurance relies on your registration or being registered if that has an irregularity then my experience of insurers is that they would invalidate your insurance on a technical irregularity.

 

[Irish Rover]

Insurance is a minefield, if as is often your insurance relies on your registration or being registered if that has an irregularity then my experience of insurers is that they would invalidate your insurance on a technical irregularity.

I just checked back on the correspondence where I insured my boat for the first time in April. The process was a bit dragged out on my side because I was going through the registration process before taking possession and activating the insurance. The insurance company were aware I was registering in the UK but never asked for proof of registration. I can't see there would be a problem telling the insurer - the address on the registration is not where I'm currently living. My residential address is xxxxxxxc. However, if you were going the SSR route it would be a different matter, as you would have to make a false declaration. Anyway @shan Is best doing what she's comfortable with.

 

[dunedin]

and for those of us not resident in the UK, it's a PITA. I am having to convince the Marina that our boat is berthed in that even though it is registered under a UK flag, that it IS French VAT paid. I do NOT have to take the boat out every 18 months. An EU flag would simplify matters but as the boat is longer than 15m, that complicates the flagging.

I think you are trying to “have your cake and it eat”. You have chosen (a) to live in an other country and (b) buy an unusually large boat, over 15m. But you don’t like the rules your host country places on boats, so trying to wriggle around / away from these rules.
“When in Rome” perhaps applies here - accept the local registration and rules of the country you have chosen to live in.
Kind of rude not to.

 

[shan]

I think you are trying to “have your cake and it eat”. You have chosen (a) to live in an other country and (b) buy an unusually large boat, over 15m. But you don’t like the rules your host country places on boats, so trying to wriggle around / away from these rules.
“When in Rome” perhaps applies here - accept the local registration and rules of the country you have chosen to live in.
Kind of rude not to.

Not quite. I would have to either fly a Polish or Portuguese officially listed surveyor to go and look at the boat, not just once but several times. I actually have no issue with the boat being surveyed - I do have an issue with having to fly someone from another country to do it. The pragmatic route would be to have it surveyed by a surveyor registered under a recognised scheme but that is not an option. As such, I have chosen to register under UK part 1, which is still a PITA because I have to keep explaining that Flag status is NOT the same as VAT status. I am considering pursuing the Irish flag at some point as there is a reciprocal UK agreement.

 

[shan]

I just checked back on the correspondence where I insured my boat for the first time in April. The process was a bit dragged out on my side because I was going through the registration process before taking possession and activating the insurance. The insurance company were aware I was registering in the UK but never asked for proof of registration. I can't see there would be a problem telling the insurer - the address on the registration is not where I'm currently living. My residential address is xxxxxxxc. However, if you were going the SSR route it would be a different matter, as you would have to make a false declaration. Anyway @shan Is best doing what she's comfortable with.

Well, we had to insure and start the registration process at the same time. The insurance has completed before the registration process as we wanted it insured from day 1. We weren't about to lie to the insurer.

 

[Mistroma]

I remember thinking the measurement for Part 1 was a bit of a scam way back in 2009. I handed the surveyor Jeanneau's blurb and he said measurements from that would be fine. On second thoughts, he measured from bilge to deck at one point (might have been up to coachroof). Job done in under 10 minutes.

I remember saying "your job is really just to confirm the boat exists and is the claimed model". He pretty much admitted that no measurements were actually needed if he'd already surveyed the same model previously.

 

[Irish Rover]

I remember thinking the measurement for Part 1 was a bit of a scam way back in 2009. I handed the surveyor Jeanneau's blurb and he said measurements from that would be fine. On second thoughts, he measured from bilge to deck at one point (might have been up to coachroof). Job done in under 10 minutes.

I remember saying "your job is really just to confirm the boat exists and is the claimed model". He pretty much admitted that no measurements were actually needed if he'd already surveyed the same model previously.

Yeah it's a bit of a joke really, but, on the other hand, you can understand the need to be sure it exists, especially for boats located overseas.

 

[shan]

I remember thinking the measurement for Part 1 was a bit of a scam way back in 2009. I handed the surveyor Jeanneau's blurb and he said measurements from that would be fine. On second thoughts, he measured from bilge to deck at one point (might have been up to coachroof). Job done in under 10 minutes.

I remember saying "your job is really just to confirm the boat exists and is the claimed model". He pretty much admitted that no measurements were actually needed if he'd already surveyed the same model previously.

Well, the surveyor has been giving us the run around. We asked if he had submitted the tonnage survey and he said no because he was waiting for the new name. We had already told him to submit it under the current boat name. Chased him up again yesterday and he had only just submitted it.

 

[Mistroma]

Yeah it's a bit of a joke really, but, on the other hand, you can understand the need to be sure it exists, especially for boats located overseas.

Probably the same for any location as Part I has implications for title. Imagine insurance scams would abound if you could manage to register an imaginary boat.