The new Rustler 37

jordanbasset said:
I am a heathen but it fails in two ways for me straight away, the cockpit does not look large enough to lie flat on and no swim platform. Is inmast furling an option, if not it has failed in 3 ways :D
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I'm sure a roller-blind main is an option. My dad left his copy of Yachting World with me the other day, which had an interview with Princess Anne on her new Rustler 42. They have a roller main, after much soul-searching because they didn't really trust it over slab reefing, as preparation against old age. I'm sure many customers of the 37 will be similar.

I reckon the cockpit seat is long enough to lie down on - remember we're looking at a 37 foot boat with the layout of a typical 32-footer, so everything has that bit more space to spread out into.

No swim platform, it's true. But then, I don't think I've swum off the boat once this year, so how important is that really?

Pete
 
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You can lie down in the cockpit of a Rustler 36 so I am sure you can in a 37. I shall have a kip on the one at SIBS and report back!

In mast furling is like Marmite.

I like Marmite.
 
jonjo5 said:
Hang on this does not make sense. One minute we are being told how good it is to have the mass of the keel and engine vertically aligned and now you add a saildrive leg. How much horizontal separation is there between prop and keel?

And (broader question) why is such close proximity of engine and keel mass a good idea? Imagine a yacht with 100% of its mass concentrated at a single point in the keel and hence zero rotational inertia, the motion would be horrible.
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On the Starlight 35, the engine is not directly overhead the keel, but is much further forward than would be if sited aft of the companionway. The engine box extends a bit forward of the companionway steps, so is effectively a box in the cabin.

Distance between aft edge of the keel and prop with my saildrive? Suspect about 3 feet.
 
jordanbasset said:
I am a heathen but it fails in two ways for me straight away, the cockpit does not look large enough to lie flat on and no swim platform. Is inmast furling an option, if not it has failed in 3 ways :D
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prv said:
I'm sure a roller-blind main is an option. My dad left his copy of Yachting World with me the other day, which had an interview with Princess Anne on her new Rustler 42. They have a roller main, after much soul-searching because they didn't really trust it over slab reefing, as preparation against old age. I'm sure many customers of the 37 will be similar.

I reckon the cockpit seat is long enough to lie down on - remember we're looking at a 37 foot boat with the layout of a typical 32-footer, so everything has that bit more space to spread out into.

No swim platform, it's true. But then, I don't think I've swum off the boat once this year, so how important is that really?

Pete
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Ex-SolentBoy said:
You can lie down in the cockpit of a Rustler 36 so I am sure you can in a 37. I shall have a kip on the one at SIBS and report back!

In mast furling is like Marmite.

I like Marmite.
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Okay then if I can lie flat in the cockpit and if it has in-mast furling and if it can be fitted with a swim platform I will have one :encouragement:
It is a gorgeous looking boat
 
If I had loadsamononey I would no doubt consider one,without inmast furling of course.De designer is enough assurance that it'll go well and I do like the engine in the saloon.But there too many good used boats on the market to make buying a new boat a decision based on lust not reason.
 
30boat said:
If I had loadsamononey I would no doubt consider one,without inmast furling of course.De designer is enough assurance that it'll go well and I do like the engine in the saloon.But there too many good used boats on the market to make buying a new boat a decision based on lust not reason.
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Lust is good.

Any hobby is spoilt by the introduction of reason. I just spent £50 on a bit of carbon to hold my bikes water bottle. How much sense is that?
 
Robert Wilson said:
Leaving aside all the oohs! aahhhs! and buts! I notice the pic shows the R37 has a loose-foot main. And a kicker.
What does a kicker do for a loose-foot main, apart from put a downward bend on the boom, which presumably is also done by the coach-roof main tackle?

I ask as a complete ignorant of loose-foot mains.
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If you look at a mainsail there is a belly in the bottom - as in all the rest of the main
You can see that the bolt rope does not go straight from clew to tack if you lay the main oi the floor
It stands to reason, therefore, that when the main is in the running position & the kicker os applied the sail does not give any appreciable support between clew & tack to the boom.
My mainsail has a bolt rope running along the middle third of the foot. This is so i get a slight endplate effect to catch the wind but there is less resistance to the foot of the sail when adjusting the clew outhaul. Certainly this does not support the boom
One option that arrises from a loose foot is that the spinnaker or asymmetrical can be recovered during a drop over the boom. This keeps the sail clear of deck gear & helps control it a bit. This probably was not the original reasoning of a loose foot bit is a spin off advantage
 
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Ex-SolentBoy said:
Perhaps in the fact that both companies supply boats in a certain price range, but otherwise I think they have a very different ethos.

Rustler have a base boat design, but each boat is highly configured and in some cases customised for each owner. Compared to this approach HR have a very minor list of options.

I am not saying which is better, just that they are different and each to his own.

I have owned two Rustlers, and looked at many HR's. I know what I prefer.

If you are a buyer then don't take my opinion. Go to the boat show, look at both, talk to both companies and see what suits you best.
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As it happens both HRs and Rustlers are on my "I want" list. With increasing size of lottery win, we go from HR342 through Rustler 42/44 to HR 48 to Discovery 55 (anything bigger seems a bit vulgar). Not sure where this one sits.
 
grumpy_o_g said:
So would the radiation from the event horizon...
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This complicates things, if Scotland implodes after the independence election we will not know whether the trigger was the First Minister's ego or the Princess Royal's Rustler 44 reaching critical mass in the western isles.
 
Ru88ell said:
There was a brand spankers one out in Carrick Roads today. She seemed to be going very well.
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37 knots over the deck so one reef and full Yankee looks good in the pictures. Deck look quite dry as well.

Even after a few hours with the spray hood down the cockpit is still dry. Who needs a spray hood?

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Nice looking boat - and wish Rustler well with it.

But the boat of this size at SIBS with the drool factor for me would have to be the Arcona 380.
Suspect would leave the Rustler for dead in lighter winds, and still look after you in the strong stuff (though appreciate the Rustler may be better if planning to "go to Greenland", which I am not)
 
dunedin said:
Nice looking boat - and wish Rustler well with it.

But the boat of this size at SIBS with the drool factor for me would have to be the Arcona 380.
Suspect would leave the Rustler for dead in lighter winds, and still look after you in the strong stuff (though appreciate the Rustler may be better if planning to "go to Greenland", which I am not)
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If you can ignore the swim platform (I only like them on motor boats), twin wheels (why?) and silly wooden trim at the deck edge I can see that above the water they might superficially have a similar drool.

However, when you look below the waterline one has drool, the other has serious concerns for me.

I have never considered speed to be a big issue for cruising boats. If you want to go quick get a racing boat and a racing crew, or go by plane.

When the weather is not pleasant, it's better to reduce speed, improve the motion of the boat and feel rested and healthy when you arrive.

When the weather is lovely why do you want to shorten the experience?

Rustlers aren't slow anyway. With a nasty sea running I would always get into port earlier than "faster" boats because I could more comfortably head up.

If you are racing round the cans though I would degree lighter and faster is better.

That's just my opinion of course. I am not going to buy one though.
 
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Ex-SolentBoy said:
37 knots over the deck so one reef and full Yankee looks good in the pictures. Deck look quite dry as well.

Even after a few hours with the spray hood down the cockpit is still dry. Who needs a spray hood?

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That car needs shifting aft... Or put a reef in the f'sail for gawds sake.

Anyways.... Looks like a tarted up bloaty awb with too small a wheel. Not as attractive as the 36.
 
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