That dreaded vinyl headlining ...

[Refueler]

Yep - the dreaded headlining started to droop and come away ... in large areas !

Once I get sorted on engine and winter over - might have to look at replacing it. I don't fancy vinyl again ... thinking to look at carpet headlining - I read that its easier to fit round compound curves etc. Has no foam behind to fail etc.

Ideas / reviews / how you did it .... all interesting for me ...

 

[pagoda]

Look for "Van lining" - it's easy to form round compound curves, it insulates and feels warm to touch. Lots of colour variety.
We installed ours over closed cell foam (6mm) from Hawke House. ( including self adhesive and spray adhesives of various types)

Horrible job removing the old stuff, but well worth the effort.

 

[V1701]

It is a truly horrible job but I did exactly that with my first boat using a combination of gluing the carpet straight onto the cleaned up fibreglass & also fixing battens to screw thin ply panels covered with carpet to. Where you can I would say do the battens/panels thing, it's neater and gives a space to run cables behind as well as being easier to replace as & when. By far the worst part of the job is removing the old vinyl & cleaning up the fibreglass. Use appropriate breathing mask & ventilate well. Here are a couple of pics...

 

[Hoolie]

We have the same headlining problem. Some smaller areas I have just applied contact adhesive and stuck it back. A bit lumpy but not too obvious. Larger areas I've used a double sided adhesive foam about 5mm thick from Hawke House. It's quite solid, unlike the original backing and is very sticky. In places extra adhesive was needed but the original vinyl surface is still there. To replace it all in our boat would be a major undertaking so I'm happy to stick at it, bit by bit.

 

[coopec]

Yep - the dreaded headlining started to droop and come away ... in large areas !

Once I get sorted on engine and winter over - might have to look at replacing it. I don't fancy vinyl again ... thinking to look at carpet headlining - I read that its easier to fit round compound curves etc. Has no foam behind to fail etc.

Ideas / reviews / how you did it .... all interesting for me ...

The carpet headlining is very easy to place as it stretches/shrinks wherever needed. Just a spray on the back and ceiling then after 5(?) minutes press in place. Then go around the edge with a sharp razor.

You can butt one bit up to another and the "join" is barely noticeable. Here is a photo showing my yacht. There is a join where the ceiling meets the sides (just under the deck beams). Can you see the join?

There are quite a few video clips on YouTube showing you how to do it.

 

[UK-WOOZY]

i removed all the old saggy headlining from my current boat 2 years ago and had roger nantais replace it all for new headlining. but yes that vehicle carpet is great, used it on a previous yacht. the vehicle carpet usually goes by the name- Veltrim

 

[V1701]

If I was doing it again I'd insulate first with that self adhesive closed cell foam per Hoolie's post above...

 

[V1701]

i removed all the old saggy headlining from my current boat 2 years ago and had roger nantais replace it all for new headlining. but yes that vehicle carpet is great, used it on a previous yacht. the vehicle carpet usually goes by the name- Veltrim

My first boat and the one the photos I posted above are from was a Sundream...

 

[UK-WOOZY]

whats your opinion on the SD, im in my 3rd year with mine. mine was in a poor state when i got it

 

[V1701]

whats your opinion on the SD, im in my 3rd year with mine. mine was in a poor state when i got it

Having previously only sailed on a Rival 38 it felt really lively to me, it was my first boat & I only had it a year. It had a retrofitted in-mast furling mainsail which wasn't great but overall I thought it was a pretty good all rounder, not slow & comfortable enough for me to live on it for a year. I've had older, heavier long keel boats since then so being able to steer in reverse is just a fond memory...

 

[UK-WOOZY]

Having previously only sailed on a Rival 38 it felt really lively to me, it was my first boat & I only had it a year. It had a retrofitted in-mast furling mainsail which wasn't great but overall I thought it was a pretty good all rounder, not slow & comfortable enough for me to live on it for a year. I've had older, heavier long keel boats since then so being able to steer in reverse is just a fond memory...

many thanks for the reply. wow, only a year.

and yeah in a gust they are lively, mine is especially with the lift keel.

mine cost £11k, spent about 7k on her replacing the windows, headlining, gelcoat repairs, replaced all electrics

 

[Refueler]

Need alternative names for :

Van headlining
Carpet Headlining
any other suitable material .....

Problem is names in UK / USA etc. often do not translate well in Latvia and they have different .... so all names I can get to try and sort local similar ...

 

[UK-WOOZY]

Need alternative names for :

Van headlining
Carpet Headlining
any other suitable material .....

Problem is names in UK / USA etc. often do not translate well in Latvia and they have different .... so all names I can get to try and sort local similar ...

veltrim

Veltrim for sale | eBay

 

[Refueler]

Tks ....

 

[Hoolie]

veltrim

Veltrim for sale | eBay

I notice online references to "standard" Veltrim and "smooth" or "original". It appears "standard" has 4-way stretch but "smooth" is thicker but only has 2-way stretch and is more difficult to fit. Which version have you used and was it easy to fit?

 

[Humblebee]

I notice online references to "standard" Veltrim and "smooth" or "original". It appears "standard" has 4-way stretch but "smooth" is thicker but only has 2-way stretch and is more difficult to fit. Which version have you used and was it easy to fit?

A bit of Googling will soon find this out for you but from what I recall the better, stretchier stuff isn't much dearer. You might want to think about some insulation too before the lining, could make a bug difference to your comfort by reducing condensation. Van lining suppliers will advise.

 

[UK-WOOZY]

I notice online references to "standard" Veltrim and "smooth" or "original". It appears "standard" has 4-way stretch but "smooth" is thicker but only has 2-way stretch and is more difficult to fit. Which version have you used and was it easy to fit?

it was so long ago i dont remember. i had headlining redone on my current boat

 

[john_morris_uk]

i removed all the old saggy headlining from my current boat 2 years ago and had roger nantais replace it all for new headlining. but yes that vehicle carpet is great, used it on a previous yacht. the vehicle carpet usually goes by the name- Veltrim

We paid several £k to have our entire boat relined about fifteen years ago.

Guess what - it's all starting to come away again. Harrumph.

Just had a quote of £2.2k to put the worst bits right.

 

[Refueler]

Question ... how many metres of fabric .... lets say its 62" / 150cm wide and sold in metre lengths ?

Boat is Sunrider 25 - cabin size is equal to Centaur .... to line main and fore cabin ..... bulkheads and sides

I know a LOT of Centaur owners have gone through this job !!

 

[Hydrozoan]

I realise that it does not help with coachroof sides, for which I would think Veltrim a good solution, but for the main under-deckhead lining I would consider fitting panels if it is at all possible. That way one can use a light-coloured vinyl material and - with care - get good results without resorting to the foam-backed variety. We were fortunate in having such panels already fitted to an inner GRP lining, but if there were no such GRP lining I would contemplate making thin ply panels and attaching them to the deckhead with 3M DuoLock. Then, when re-covering becomes necessary it’s a simpler and less expensive job. There is some loss of headroom of course, but it may with DuoLock be possible to avoid the contribution to that from battening.