Taylors stove - oven won't light

pvb said:
Why oh why do so many people persist with these dangerous relics? :confused:
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1) Safer than gas. Flare-ups are harmless , apart from a bit of soot on the deckhead, and are due to error, not the design.
(The YM crash test boat explosion article would have been impossible with a Taylors cooker.)

2) Cheaper than gas, depending on what size bottles you buy the particular fuel in.
Taylors cookers also love JetA1/avturb, petrole (type of cheap French paraffin substitute) and probably others I haven't tried.

3) No nonsense with incompatible fittings abroad.

4) The fuel can be stored anywhere on board, in any size or material of container.

5) The stoves are very attractive polish up a treat, and last for ever, maybe with burner replacement every 5 or 10 years.

6) A certain "je ne sais quoi" if you like old relics or sail one.. or even are one..

Happy to help!
 
We've an Origo 6000, which was bought at eye watering expense by the way, as my wife didn't fancy gas, due to the frequent bad publicity they can attract. She said, "No boat's ever had a meths explosion".
 
jamie N said:
We've an Origo 6000, which was bought at eye watering expense by the way, as my wife didn't fancy gas, due to the frequent bad publicity they can attract. She said, "No boat's ever had a meths explosion".
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No, but they've had fires....

Gas is perfectly safe unless you're either very stupid or very careless.
 
pvb said:
No, but they've had fires....

Gas is perfectly safe unless you're either very stupid or very careless.
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Indeed. If you have a modern boat with a proper gas locker, and you keep everything well maintained, it will be absolutely fine.

I have a boat with a slightly iffy plywood gas locker and ancient regulator and pipework. It was much easier and cheaper to stick a paraffin stove in than to do a satisfactory job of improving the gas system. Fortunately I quite like cooking on paraffin.
 
Kelpie said:
Indeed. If you have a modern boat with a proper gas locker, and you keep everything well maintained, it will be absolutely fine.

I have a boat with a slightly iffy plywood gas locker and ancient regulator and pipework. It was much easier and cheaper to stick a paraffin stove in than to do a satisfactory job of improving the gas system. Fortunately I quite like cooking on paraffin.
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Doesn't have to be a modern boat, but it does help to keep it well maintained. With a gas installation, there isn't much to maintain, although the regulator may need replacing periodically. You could have replaced your regulator and pipework fairly cheaply, you don't even need to comply with BSS standards if you're not going on inland waterways.
 
It was more the state of the 'gas locker'- a corner of the cockpit locker that had been boxed out in plywood. I wasn't sure I could trust it to be entirely gas-tight and if the floor had failed gas would have gone straight into the bilge. Knowing this, I always turned the gas iff at the regulator after use. But I'm only human and 'always' is a high standard to keep up.

I like the fact that if a paraffin stove goes bad, it does it in front of you. Gas can go behind your back...
 
Kelpie said:
It was more the state of the 'gas locker'- a corner of the cockpit locker that had been boxed out in plywood. I wasn't sure I could trust it to be entirely gas-tight and if the floor had failed gas would have gone straight into the bilge.
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Understandable concern; you could have just put a layer of GRP over the inside of the locker, wouldn't have needed to be particularly neat.
 
pvb said:
Which is more than I'd do! :D
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NO, NO, NO !

Do not let anyone have it.

So far the main contributors to this thread have been berth-hugging 'Master Chef' contestants .

Now then, and listen-up .... A new Taylor with an oven is £2,500 (yes the Germans have started making them and parts).

A Taylor stove will last forever. Why? 'Cos they were made properly for yachts doing long ocean passages where Gas/Gaz might not be available, but kerosene (parafin) was.

Why did Taylor stoves go 'down-the-pan' - about 5 years ago YM or PBO sent a photo journalist to Blake Lavacs to do an article on the manufacture of same.

And here is why every business should have a Public Relations Manager - because the photo journalist, no doubt quietly and with an ample dose of faux innocence, asked what does a 'flare up' look like.

The poor devil who was hung out to dry demonstrated such a spectacular event - click went the camera and down went Taylor stoves !

A gas stove will blow you to smithereens.

A Taylor stove will burn you - but give you time to drop over the fire blanket - WHAT neither of you gas or parafin users have a fire blanket onboard - shame on you.

Since my yachts build in 1985 the same Taylor stove has been onboard.

Yep, I had flare-ups in the early days, spectacular, but no damage and no use of the fire blanket.

Once you have sorted your oven burner out, just remember to keep the fuel tank pressurised to 25 psi - this will give you very fine control of temperatures in the oven.

If you can't find the source of todays Taylor suppliers, send me a PM and I will get off my butt and search it out - but t'internet should come up with the source.
 
STATUE said:
NO, NO, NO !

Do not let anyone have it.

So far the main contributors to this thread have been berth-hugging 'Master Chef' contestants .

Now then, and listen-up .... A new Taylor with an oven is £2,500 (yes the Germans have started making them and parts).

A Taylor stove will last forever. Why? 'Cos they were made properly for yachts doing long ocean passages where Gas/Gaz might not be available, but kerosene (parafin) was.

Why did Taylor stoves go 'down-the-pan' - about 5 years ago YM or PBO sent a photo journalist to Blake Lavacs to do an article on the manufacture of same.

And here is why every business should have a Public Relations Manager - because the photo journalist, no doubt quietly and with an ample dose of faux innocence, asked what does a 'flare up' look like.

The poor devil who was hung out to dry demonstrated such a spectacular event - click went the camera and down went Taylor stoves !

A gas stove will blow you to smithereens.

A Taylor stove will burn you - but give you time to drop over the fire blanket - WHAT neither of you gas or parafin users have a fire blanket onboard - shame on you.

Since my yachts build in 1985 the same Taylor stove has been onboard.

Yep, I had flare-ups in the early days, spectacular, but no damage and no use of the fire blanket.

Once you have sorted your oven burner out, just remember to keep the fuel tank pressurised to 25 psi - this will give you very fine control of temperatures in the oven.

If you can't find the source of todays Taylor suppliers, send me a PM and I will get off my butt and search it out - but t'internet should come up with the source.
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I agree with every word of that, and will just add that if you are making a longer voyage, you can carry several months supply of cooking fuel in less space and with less weight with paraffin than you can with gas.
 
pvb said:
We'll have to agree to differ.
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Actually, we Taylor's users ought to agree with you!
Taylor's cooking stoves have been more or less immortal since they moved to using stainless steel and brass (very very old ones have painted steel bodies) and many of us have come by our Taylor's cookers thanks to people being scared by a flare up, deciding that gas was safer and throwing out the Taylor's cooker... I have owner four, and have never bought a new one!
 
Adz said:
I have recently installed a Taylors Stove, I love it, however it can be a challenge to light at times. I have made a video on my version of lighting these fantastic, See link below to the video.

https://youtu.be/ebvp7uLmzPE
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Having watched the video, I'm even more incredulous that people have these antiquated devices in their boats! It looked dangerous enough tied up, what on earth would it be like out at sea? Just confirms my view that the proponents of using Taylors stoves are lacking in some basic sense of self-preservation.
 
Why does everything have to be reduced to logic? Can't we have what we like and enjoy?
Sensible people can be very annoying at times.
 
Why does everything have to be reduced to logic? Can't we have what we like and enjoy?

Everyone knows the pros and cons of all the gas/paraffin systems.

The over-sensible can be very tiresome at times.
 
pvb said:
Having watched the video, I'm even more incredulous that people have these antiquated devices in their boats! It looked dangerous enough tied up, what on earth would it be like out at sea? Just confirms my view that the proponents of using Taylors stoves are lacking in some basic sense of self-preservation.
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I have used one. No problems that i recall and I don't remember it being so awkward to fill the meths cup.

I reckon you could almost risk letting Nick 3-2-1 use one.

I have an old Optimus with the same type of silent burner. I might give it a whirl when I've got nothing better to do.
 
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