Targa 37

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Well just got back from a chill out in the sun, I went to take my long suffering family away from boating, as we dont have one at the moment, but started to look for something , well I looked at many brokers, some sounded good, but some sound very shady, I think I have found the good from bad but await any comments from you about any dealings on the costa you may have had,
I have also found a boat I would like to buy, now I have said to some of you in the past, not to buy an outdrive boat, and not to have KAD 42 series engines, well I eat my words cos thats whats in this one, I was amazed by the room and finish inside of this T37, I want to go boating in the sun next season, and due to work and time available I need a newer boat that does not require the upkeep of a 10 plus year old one, this one is only 5 years old and done 350 hours, in turn key condition, as I have never owned a sports type cruiser I am wondering how I will get on with it, I will only use it on small trips, so no serious stuff involved, just want a floating hotel in the sun, cheers a very sunburnt Paul.
 
Hi Paul we are going to Cost Del Sol in Sept to arrange furniture for the new property and also hunt for berths.
We are near Estepona within reach of three Marinas Estepona, Puerto De La Duquesa & Sotogrande.
By coincidence I will be looking for a Targa or V Princess about 37 to 40 ft so I'll be interested in the forums
response. I too am a shaft man but will have to look at stern drives also.
Will be selling the Crown later in the year.

"The Med is calling me"
 
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Paul, when I replied to your PM I thought you were after a Phantom 37!!
My 4396 word reply is now meaningless!!
I will now go and sit in a dark room and cry!

Moose
 
oo it's not often we need advise paul!

I had a fairline, and know lots of people withem too. I agree that the t37 is roomy, almost indistinguishably so as the older and bigger t39. 5-yearold t37 is one of the earlier ones. T37 of course is t36 with bathing platform, itself the first targa with the slightly-stolen Pershing look. Looks very fine all the same.

Colour is very important, I think: in the same way as any silver-painted german car will sell, so any blue-hulled targa will also sell. The greens are far less popular in comparison, and the white is nondescript, all imho, but also in the evident opinion of acres of other post-98 targas - in fact do they do green at all any more? I don't know, but factor this in.

Things to look for include

...problematic sealant/silkaflex in the shower cubicles, culmintaing in damp bits in the corners of saloon.

problematic shower doors - check for smooth running.

poorly-finished light switched need brillo pads to remove surface rust. shd have been unclipped and sprayed with wd40 over winter. Aske what happened over winter. Mildewed stuff can be dryceaned but still leave damage on curtain and fairly expensive fabrics.

...Overcarpets make it all nice and springy, but may hide damaged varnish in lower reaches near the shower areas. Check also shower pumps, notoriously crap, which flood in the lazarette.

"Running-dry" alarms on the bilges should work perfectly, and an unchipped dashboard a definte plus, where non-wood effect is longest lasting.

Targas aren't always as dry as they might be - a first question from a potential buyer can be "has there ever been any signbificant water in the bilges?" and it goes without saying that the engine bay should be rust-free.

The batteries may be almost to the end of their useful life, at which the (usually, if it's there) autohelm autopilot may lose its hold and flick bacjk to standby from time to time.

If it has teak bathing platform (shd have this) then look carefuly for over-washing of this by guardiennage and the 2mm teak worn through to the plywood underneath- not easy to spot unless wet.

In the med, the blinds will have been used a lot and these need whole rooflining out to repair so they shd work smoothly.

Fairline dealers get caned pricewise for extras, and some fit bowthrusters and passarelles themselves which may or may not be as good as factory fit. Teh invoice from fairline will show what actually was standard, anyhting else is aftermarket, but could still be good.

hydro passarelles not worth anything unless bomb-solid reliable. operate this a lot up down and with remote.

Of course, best with generator and aircon.

brand spanking new mega carpet all thru in a f48 cost me 1200 quid and makes it all feel and smell brand new again. Berber is best, and correct internal wood colour is cherry rather than older looking honey maple. Sign of a fastidious owner is a full set of fairline fenders, second best a full set of fenders all the same type. Try and see (somehow? licking? dunno) if they've bleached up the seats to make it look decent for selling which is they have they drop apart the following season.

ooh and of course it looks the total part, sports cruisers allow the party to contiinue whilst driving - none of that "we'll go down below" and safe with kiddies cos you know where eevryone actually is. Only one flight of stairs too.

How much are they asking? Blue, decentish 5 yrs old um asking 130 offer 115 but a wild guess - you know better! less 5 k for no genny/air, less another 5-10 for a green hull -cos all the blue ones will sell first.
 
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Listen Oldgit I do like other boats yer know, in fact my first boat was a P32. Plus I nearly bought Byron's
435 (he changed his mind could'nt bear to part with it in the end) and I fancy a V40 for the med.
Much more practical than the Broom for the med as we don't need all that superb accomodation and the
Princess is obviously faster for quick blasts up to Puerto Banus, Menorca etc.

"The Med is calling me"
 
Targa 37 a lovely lovely boat.

Only thing I'd say is that it always strikes me that a V40 does'nt seem very much dearer, year for year and they are a lot bigger inside and out.

Might be worth casting your eye over a V40 before you make up your mind.
 
37 ft is a good size for the Med. I've got a Sealine S37 down there and finding marina space has not been a problem (tell them it's 11 metres and you get charged the 10-11 catagory) also the chop you always get in the med means you can go out comfortably in a f3-4 which seems the most common mid day condition.
I guess your fuel capacity will be similar to mine which will give you 150 miles with a large safety margin with your 42's.
We find the size easy to run with 2 people,very comfortable cruising with 4 adults for 2-3 weeks but for 6 people weekends only.
Are you buying here or on the Med.
have fun
David
 
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and no more acres of net curtains to wash..........

O my Gawd its still going ahead......
 
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I think we opened his eyes to the reality of Brooms. Mind you there is one more boat that is uglier than a Broom and thats the Birchwood!!! That takes some beating.

yada yada..
 
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Horses for course old chap see my last comments to Old Git. Broom for here, VP or Targa for Med makes perfect
sense.

"The Med is calling me"
 
Oooh, sounds as if you've been dazzled by shiny new cherry wood. I went down this route once with a Sealine S37 and, yes I know it was in the UK not the Med but I still think my comments are valid.
However much you convince yourself that it's really much bigger inside than you imagined, it is'nt, and you dont find this out until you've lived with the boat for a while. Designers use tricks such as reducing the size of door frames, seating and beds and strategically locating mirrors to make the interior look larger. Once you've found out that only a family of midgets can co-exist happily inside, you then spend most of your time outside which brings me to my particular bete noire, the cockpit canopy. Just erecting this once will leave on the point of mental and physical exhaustion and make you regret for ever not sticking with a flybridge boat with those nice sliding patio doors and roomy saloon.
And thats before we discuss sterndrives which you'll love when you're mooring stern to with a beam wind with a useless undersized bowthruster. Then you've got the maintenance costs on these things which will far outweigh any savings you make just because the boat is a bit newer
Having said this I would be tempted by a sports cruiser for Med use but, for the same money, you can get some tasty shaft drive stuff like a Sunseeker Mustique 42, Fairline Targa 41 or 42, Princess Riviera 46 or 406. OK, they'll be a bit older but they're bigger and above all, shafties
 
Paul - we recently sold our 3 year old Sealine S37 - it was a toss up at the time of buying between that and a Targa 37, but as we were trading in another Sealine (F33) the deal we got swayed it. As far as space is concerned, my wife and I lived on it for 3 months last year (sold one house, waiting for the new one to be built). Once you get used to the space constraints after a house, it really is very easy. In fairness we hade heating, microwave and all other creature comforts, but we actually really enjoyed it, and this was in the early part of the year. Having had both flybridge and cockpit boats, to be honest I don't know which I prefer - accomodation wise, the two are not too much different, except in a flybridge boat you can see all around you from inside the boat, but on inclement days, the cockpit boat really comes into it's own. With regard to outdrives, I've had Volvo duo-prop and Mercruiser Bravo 1's and 2's, and as long as you have them properly and regularly serviced, they were (in my case) reliable (except for one broken gearshift cable on a Bravo 2, fixed under warranty). The shaft drive boys will have you think otherwise of course, but in practise look after them and you should be OK.
 
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Posted by mustard (regular)
Posted on 16/08/2002 14:28



Is the V42 worth the little bit extra?


Well, I guess you'd need to have a look and decide for yourself, but I think so yes. It is a surprisingly bigger boat with much better accomodation in my opinion. Look at V40's too. Same story.
 
Interesting post guys.

We have just taken the plunge and traded in our Targa 29 against a 5 year old Targa 37 with KAD 42's and a blue hull.

She looks a stunner, is spotless down below and was re carpeted by the last owner just before he traded her in, due to a red wine spill! A bonus is that she comes with a 3 month warranty.

I know there have been probs with KAD42's and will be having a mechanical survey this week, with 350 hours on the clock am I likely to have any probs?

Ray

"Hopefully that won't be too expensive to fix?"
 
KAD series suffer from, head gasket leaks, corrosion of the front timing cover around the sea water pump, sump gasket leaks, compressor probs witht he clutch and belt slippage, and of course they self destruct if overheated apart from all that lot there ok.
paul js, ps im not bothering with one at the moment, want something bigger!.
 
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the cockpit canopy. I've recently seen two T48s over this side of the pond (Florida and Ontario) and was astonished at the abortion of a canopy they use. It looks awful - all lumpy and hodge-podge - and completely ruins the elegant lines of the boat. Is this how the factory supplies them or have they been provide by 'locals?'
 
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Dont know, Arthur but the cockpit canopy always seems to be an afterthought. The only people who seem to have given it some thought is Broom. They've introduced a single clip arrangement a bit like a modern convertible car whereby just one handle locks the canopy to the windscreen
 
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