Cruise Reports Taking our yacht to Sweden for the summer - any 50m marinas?

[Capital_R]

Yeah, I think i should get an award for newbie post of the year, or something. Glad I got to meet everyone - most of the permanent residents at least!

Will be a good Party; and thanks for the fuel tip... saves me a small fortune. Price in Norway is about £1.20 which confuses me. They tell me at least 50,000 litres is needed. Which seems mad at that price.

Especially given the Rotterdam Wholesale price is €0.38/l right now... but i cant seem to access the bowsers at that price... except for the South of france - and now Guernsey. Yay..!

Only half mad/bonkers now...



The Aras wasn't to be sadly. So unfortunately not the sleek looking 1930s beauty. I would have loved if that went ahead.

This time, just the 160 some foot single hull version of what should look like that silver boat, I hope.

You'll get plenty of warning. she flies a bright red ensign NZ flag.

Hard to miss.

 

[Capital_R]

Look at the facts;
You can fantasize about being an international man of money, you can fantasize about having a superyacht, you can fantasize about graduating MIT and Harvard, you can fantasize about rescuing people from natural disasters.
But nobody fantasizes about being a Kiwi.
I like him!

Ha!

 

[Capital_R]

Just spotted this thread -- and as a raggie I thought wow those depths are going to be restrictive. Aside from that I would say you're doing quite well timewise and a Norwegian yard is probably a good choice. I know of several stalled projects in Turkey, but in parallel some of the top quality specialist yards are now running 5+ year waiting lists.

A friend of mine manages the commissioning and build of big mobos, including several for MENA clients above the Feadship & Co threshold. In fact there are a few firms that specialise in these projects and I'd be happy to introduce if desired.

If however this thread is all a massive windup -- well it's still early March after all

Many thanks Dom

I know the Burgess guys. They gave me heaps of guidance. Kind advice. The appeal of this was having a distraction from work; so i took on more of the management work myself. But I'm ignoring doctors orders and not being distracted from work... which you'll see why in time.

She's completed her first bits. Crew spaces are 85% done. Machinary is 90% sorted. Guest areas are 5% done. No teak decking yet. But a functional bridge. Initial sea trials were supposed to be now; she's afloat and alongside, but the captain + 1 are in germany dealing with the primary tender; don't get me started...

So we'll see. She was supoosed to go to Greece or Italy for the final fit out. I wanted to be aboard for the trip. Sadly... might it make it... which is how this post started...

 

[Capital_R]

Yep, I'm loving every minute of it, can't wait to see some more images of this boat as it starts build................ or have I missed something and it's already in build somewhere ?

Hi Andrew M,

In build. Phase 1 just winding up. Only 100% over budget; and 4 months behind... small potatoes.

Im being told that the delivery to West Greece will cost nearly NZD 180k; or EUR 90k (140K NZD) to go there by own power... again, about 4 times the initial cost.

So looking to park her up and take her down myself, once my final tickets are issued.

#dreaming........

 

[Capital_R]

Just spotted this thread -- and as a raggie I thought wow those depths are going to be restrictive. Aside from that I would say you're doing quite well timewise and a Norwegian yard is probably a good choice. I know of several stalled projects in Turkey, but in parallel some of the top quality specialist yards are now running 5+ year waiting lists.

A friend of mine manages the commissioning and build of big mobos, including several for MENA clients above the Feadship & Co threshold. In fact there are a few firms that specialise in these projects and I'd be happy to introduce if desired.

If however this thread is all a massive windup -- well it's still early March after all

It is quite deep; but okay if your area is Greece and the Pacific/Patagonia.... Caribbean suits a shallower draft, i hear, but plenty of big rag boats over there so can't be too bad. #oneday

 

[Capital_R]

That's very true My mum is a kiwi

I've certainly gone from being a doubter to hoping it's all true. What this lacks is pictures......many many pictures!

Hi FARSCO,

Would post pics, but im not there. Also the yard and I agreed to certain levels of confidentiality...


If it were in my shed, there would already be beer and custard - and photos of every jubilee clip and hose clap i am sure.

Posting to get off page 13 quickly.

R.

 

[Andrew M]

In build. Phase 1 just winding up..

Super, never having had a build... what's Phase 1 ? and when/what is phase 2, ?

 

[Capital_R]

Super, never having had a build... what's Phase 1 ? and when/what is phase 2, ?

Oh... there are more phases than that...

But for me... all prior to now are phase 1... getting it in the water.

Phase 2 is getting it to a completion yard... to start to make it super-yachtie...

Heres the mangusta 42... brand new... then you can see the hull getting smoother and shinier....



And.....



Which is about where we are at.

*THIS IS NOT MY BOAT... THIS IS A BOAT FROM THE INTERNET*

the last two pages are what we're doing once in the water.


Then this....



Just because i have no pics of my own....

(To illustrate the story)

 

[Capital_R]

Just been digging through emails to find the process we went through.

And all the stages, checks and milestones/progress markers.

She's not an undertaking for the light of heart.....

Will post if i find it

 

[Capital_R]

Last post on page 13...

 

[Capital_R]

Page 14. Which is unlucky in the orrient.

 

[longjohnsilver]

Ok, so you're having a super yacht built but have no pictures of it. A little unusual, don't you think?

And I told you about cheap fuel in Guernsey about 20 posts ago!

 

[ari]

Hi FARSCO,

Would post pics, but im not there. Also the yard and I agreed to certain levels of confidentiality...

R.

You'd think at 100% over budget they might find enough to invest in a camera and send you some snaps.

Still, you can understand their desire for confidentiality I suppose. A 40m ice classed double hulled boat that can accommodate 200 people, carry 750,000 litres of fuel (across two decks!), a helicopter, and a 7 metre tender that will do 47 knots for 500 miles is pretty, umm, special...

 

[Capital_R]

Ok, so you're having a super yacht built but have no pictures of it. A little unusual, don't you think?

And I told you about cheap fuel in Guernsey about 20 posts ago!

Sorry longjohnsilver,

Didnt mean to offend - i reacted to the specific price point data - which was new. Cheap is relative. Pennies per litre was exciting. Thank you also.

I'm not 100% sure why Im not getting a lot of images. I mentioned i think the yard and the crew are planning on giving me a compilation book (published into a coffee table book - if you know what i mean) of the build work.. so im getting hardly anything. Other than the insides of cupboards or photos of linen, etc.

I did have a 20 minute time lapse video tho of the very early stages. That was cool. But not recognisable.

Have a great day guys,

R.

 

[Capital_R]

You'd think at 100% over budget they might find enough to invest in a camera and send you some snaps.

Still, you can understand their desire for confidentiality I suppose. A 40m ice classed double hulled boat that can accommodate 200 people, carry 750,000 litres of fuel (across two decks!), a helicopter, and a 7 metre tender that will do 47 knots for 500 miles is pretty, umm, special...

Excellent!

Another round of beer and saussage!

I'm interested to understand the math you guys are using to question the feasibility.

50m (length) * 10m (beam) * 4m (waterline) is 2000 cubes. If 70% of the box area is taken up by the actual hull shape (shes displacement, not planing) and half that space is tanks... its solved.

The dinghy remains to be seen. I was told "320 hp engine (5.7l V8) will push her at 47 knots. You'll burn 40l/hr at 320hp and you'll go for 10/12 hours" maybe i got that wrong.

Rule of thumb was 10l per hour per 100hp produced. But this is a petrol engine, amd probably supercharged.

Again, to invite mockery - my car is a 4.4l petrol. Fuel tank is 100l. Does 400 miles to the tank. So even 500l would give the truck a 2,000 mile range. And I cant see how a wheel is only twice as efficient as water. So something is definitely wrong there. Bit gutted about that.

But we'll see.

Like everyone... i like proof.

 

[MrB]

If i was spending 30-40 million £ on a yacht i'm damn sure i would have 1000's of photos of every stage. I don't think i would be querying the cost of a 5k compass and the price of fuel per L either lol . I personally would ask where i could park it though hahaha. :encouragement:

 

[Capital_R]

You'd think at 100% over budget [/UNQUOTE]

I think I've boxed myself into a corner here and shouldn't have let that slip. Just FYI to the forum please.

 

[ds797]

Resisted posting so far, just following the fun!

But if I had the money to spend 30-40 million on this spec of yacht, the worry as to whether my 50,000 litres of fuel was e1.30 or e0.50 a litre wouldn't really be an issue!

Either it wouldn't be an issue or I would have made sure I could afford to run said yacht before ordering it!

 

[Capital_R]

If i was spending 30-40 million £ on a yacht i'm damn sure i would have 1000's of photos of every stage. I don't think i would be querying the cost of a 5k compass and the price of fuel per L either lol . I personally would ask where i could park it though hahaha. :encouragement:

Lols. Meet more superyacht owners. You'll find they do care. At least in my experience. They know everything. Being rich is primarily (a) learning how to not waste money (b) teaching that (or rather enforcing that) on people who work for you. Many of the companies Ive bought, this was the simple change that turned them around. It's also how ive made many enemies in banking circles too... by counting costs of people who had become accustomed to having their costs watched...... one guy (a former CTO whonthen worked for me) even bragged to me sbout just how much he could cost credit suisse just by bogging down their operations teams with questions..... you wouldnt believe what people are like....

 

[alt]

Don't worry about the crew cost for delivery, you'll get plenty of volunteers here... you just need to supply the booze (I'm Irish, so it may just be cheaper to pay me)

Roll on... shall I start packing the whiskey now?!