Cruise Reports Taking our yacht to Sweden for the summer - any 50m marinas?

[jfm]

...yes I know - it is 100% a crude photoshopping (but im not unpleased with it - i mostly hope the French don't come after me for stylistic royalties!). I did the photo shopping myeslf when I was explaining to designers the look I was after... so you're spot on, on most counts. It doesn't look quite like that - but that was the hope, and people were so keen for a picture - and i get it; some people are very visual - so I got off topic and posted that - although I mentioned at the time that it was a design phase image, and that I would post real pics in due course, it's kinda taken over the post.

Apologies for the typos.

I invite you to wager an offer to benefit all the commenters on the platform, who have helped me: ...

[moved] It's 750 cubes - not tonnes [/end of moved text] As a guide, I believe 750 cubes is 663 tonnes?

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After all, some of the most enduring friendships are often generated from scenarios like this...!.

I wasn't going to bother replying but don't want to appear rude, so will reply briefly to the points quoted above.

1. So the design sketch is a concept drawing you gave to the builders at start of project, and she is going to be cruising this summer. The picture you photoshopped was first posted on the 'net November 2014, which doesn't give enough time to build a 50m for a normal shipyard. No worries - those Norwegians are fast. You wont be telling us the shipyard and location anytime soon, I think.

2. No need to apologise to me for the typos - you typo away! Just odd that you wrote about yourself in the third person. =a bit weird

3. Wager - whatever - I'll buy a round for this forum anytime.

4. Lets not mix up GT (volume) tonnes with displacement tonnes (weight). Your 49m boat will weigh something like 400 tonnes. I'm talking weight/displacement , not GT volume. You're going to fill her with 663 tonnes weight of fuel. Let's just say that again - a 400 tonne displacement boat, with 663 tonnes of added fuel weight. In-ter-est-ing.

5. Yep plenty of friendships made on here. Not so many from untruthful posts, but there's a first time for everything so first beer is on me if we're in the same pub :encouragement:

 

[MapisM]

Yep plenty of friendships made on here. Not so many from untruthful posts, but there's a first time for everything so first beer is on me if we're in the same pub

How true.
And after all, sometimes entertaining posts can be appreciated as much as the rigorous ones - if not more... :encouragement:

 

[MrB]

How true.
And after all, sometimes entertaining posts can be appreciated as much as the rigorous ones - if not more... :encouragement:

:encouragement:

 

[Phildorset]

How true.
And after all, sometimes entertaining posts can be appreciated as much as the rigorous ones - if not more... :encouragement:

agreed,
I for one am happy to locate this thread each time I log on to the forum, looking forward to a new twist, image, statistic or fact - it's amusing to read even though it seems unbelievable and extreme. I wouldn't swap it for the useful info I find from other posters and contributors, but it is amusing!

 

[s50cam]

At what point do we get to the 'whodunnit' part of this saga

Has been fun reading

One can't help but be sceptical but I would love it to be true !

edited for humanity

 

[Bouba]

Just because Capital R's story is incredible doesn't mean it's not credible. Anybody who gets into the superyacht league at age thirty is going to sound like a fairytale but it does happen. He has offered to do the 'custard test' and even to invite the forum to a BBQ on board. These things take time and I feel that some people are going to make him feel so unwelcome that he quits the forum before we find the truth.
Shouldn't we show humanity to a billionaire?

 

[Phildorset]

Just because Capital R's story is incredible doesn't mean it's not credible. Anybody who gets into the superyacht league at age thirty is going to sound like a fairytale but it does happen. He has offered to do the 'custard test' and even to invite the forum to a BBQ on board. These things take time and I feel that some people are going to make him feel so unwelcome that he quits the forum before we find the truth.
Shouldn't we show humanity to a billionaire?

I do agree, and I meant my post to remain neutral and inoffensive, you are right - it just could be a real story, and then perhaps a book, (maybe a doc film)... am currently re-reading Grand Ambition about Doug Von Allmen's boat build, probably the closest I'll get to such craft. So I for one rather hope it's all true, and it's just the facts, pics & figures that are all mixed up.

 

[Capital_R]

I do agree, and I meant my post to remain neutral and inoffensive, you are right - it just could be a real story, and then perhaps a book, (maybe a doc film)... am currently re-reading Grand Ambition about Doug Von Allmen's boat build, probably the closest I'll get to such craft. So I for one rather hope it's all true, and it's just the facts, pics & figures that are all mixed up.

Funny stuff.

I heard the BBC is doing a documentary on me soon; aparantly ready in September. Not for the boat, but for other stuff. I'm not quite sure why i keep posting, and dropping in new facts like this that I know will cause mockery! But it's better than talking to boat yards and managers that just blink and say "this is normal" at a $250,000 over run on one thing or another, which i find as credible as a cat taking a leak on an electric fence. If that were unbelievable. So the fact that you guys find this as surreal as I do, probably binds us together.

On the details - yes; she has two decks (levels) of fuel tanks. I think they are 25 cubes each incapacity on average. The second deck has the fuel tanks next to the hull, and are about 8m*2.5m*1.1m or so each.

When I took over the project, it was already materially complete, lets say 60% of where we wanted to get it to for this summer. I'd say now, 9 months later, we're at 65%. Feel my pain.

Anyway. Must go, have to meet with a few Prime Ministers this week, and a central bank governor or two also.... oh. Mass. Yes.

Full dry weight shes a little under 900 tonnes i believe. Even though the superstructure is aluminum.

And on the 200 people: I'm not saying its the Queen Mary; people will be hot bunking, or sleeping in seats or inflatable bean bags. The point was supposed to be, this isnt a normal yacht just to float around observing boardshorts and bikinis... that was all. Its part of a bigger mission!

 

[NGM]

Just because Capital R's story is incredible doesn't mean it's not credible. Anybody who gets into the superyacht league at age thirty is going to sound like a fairytale but it does happen. He has offered to do the 'custard test' and even to invite the forum to a BBQ on board. These things take time and I feel that some people are going to make him feel so unwelcome that he quits the forum before we find the truth.
Shouldn't we show humanity to a billionaire?

I hope that was tongue in cheek, surely you don't believe any of this nonsense !

 

[Capital_R]

I do apologise for all the things ive been wrong about. But i can give you this additional info:

She draws 3.2m at the bow, and 3.7m at the stern when under balast only (I don't know this number, but think it's about 100 tonne of balast fresh water). When fully laiden wit fuel, it's an even 5.2m bow and stern - I believe. And you can nearly step off the boat deck straigh into a pilot boat when shes full, else you need a ladder.

Also - I have a question: why does it take so long to build yachts? I don't get it. When we were looking at the Williamsburg - she was originally launched as Aras... taking 9 months to build, and 3 months to hand over.

Were builders of the 1930s really that much better/or was the workmanship that much worse (cant have been... she sunk after 85 years, 40 of which were utter neglect!)....

Name: Aras
Owner: Hugh J. Chisholm
Builder: Bath Iron Works
Laid down: 19 March 1930
Launched: 8 December 1930
Acquired: 15 January 1931

 

[MapisM]

Must go, have to meet with a few Prime Ministers this week, and a central bank governor or two also....

I feel for you.
As much as there are quite a few characters around here, none are anywhere near as boring (not to mention, quite often, just plain liars) as most PMs or bankers.
I know in which company I'd rather have that sausage BBQ, if given a choice...!

 

[Capital_R]

I was warned about this... aparantly there are codes of respect for the subject, even in tabloids, when running a story about one thing or another - except there is an utter free for all on both Bankers and Politicians.

Which; I think is fair. Both are highly sub-optimised fields with respect to public good vs. Private gain; but the clearest distinction is "spenders of other peoples money". Bankers suffer tremendous moral hazard and asymetric gains, and Politicians from lowest common denominator game-theory positive-sum bypass.

But I'm not used to being in that same bucket!

 

[Bouba]

I hope that was tongue in cheek, surely you don't believe any of this nonsense !

All of us are fantasist to some extent. I once joined the Arvor owners forum, I was so sure my wife was going to let me have a big Arvor. For a few months I gave everyone on the forum the benefit of my expertise on every subject. The wife preferred a Barracuda and I dropped the forum mid thread.
But always I read this forum (and the trawler forum) fantasizing of one day owning a trawler. And then it became a reality but I did not join this forum, not when we signed the dotted line, not when the boat was delivered, not when the preparation was finished, not when we waited a month because it was too windy to crane her in. No, I did not want to tempt fate and didn't join until my boat actually hit the water.
Perhaps the only thing Capital R is guilty of is joining us before his boat is ready. Not such a crime really.

 

[adey]

Haven't read the whole thread but this dude's totally bonkers, right?

 

[Capital_R]

Hi Adey,

There's an established price to those sorts of words on this thread; you gotta be ready to buy a round at the lauch party once we get her out of the yard.... (ideally to London, or east or south coast)...

If you're up for that, you're in plenty of good company.

Should be an excellent weekend.

R.

Would may as well see you there too..!

 

[wellf100]

Hi Adey,

There's an established price to those sorts of words on this thread; you gotta be ready to buy a round at the lauch party once we get her out of the yard.... (ideally to London, or east or south coast)...

If you're up for that, you're in plenty of good company.

Should be an excellent weekend.

R.

Would may as well see you there too..!

This is going to be some party Capital_R......if you don't mind could you take a detour and stop off in Guernsey to pick me up. Whilst you're here you can fill up on diesel for about 40p / litre so it'll be worth your while.

Only thing is I'm a bit lost...should I be looking out for a 1930' restored classic or a 50m single hulled version of the Manifesto cat or something completely different?

Great thread though...very entertaining!

 

[Andrew M]

Great thread though...very entertaining!

Yep, I'm loving every minute of it, can't wait to see some more images of this boat as it starts build................ or have I missed something and it's already in build somewhere ?

 

[Bouba]

Haven't read the whole thread but this dude's totally bonkers, right?

Look at the facts;
You can fantasize about being an international man of money, you can fantasize about having a superyacht, you can fantasize about graduating MIT and Harvard, you can fantasize about rescuing people from natural disasters.
But nobody fantasizes about being a Kiwi.
I like him!

 

[dom]

....But i can give you this additional info:

She draws 3.2m at the bow, and 3.7m at the stern when under balast only (I don't know this number, but think it's about 100 tonne of balast fresh water). When fully laiden wit fuel, it's an even 5.2m bow and stern - I believe. And you can nearly step off the boat deck straigh into a pilot boat when shes full, else you need a ladder.

Also - I have a question: why does it take so long to build yachts? I don't get it. When we were looking at the Williamsburg - she was originally launched as Aras... taking 9 months to build, and 3 months to hand over.

Just spotted this thread -- and as a raggie I thought wow those depths are going to be restrictive. Aside from that I would say you're doing quite well timewise and a Norwegian yard is probably a good choice. I know of several stalled projects in Turkey, but in parallel some of the top quality specialist yards are now running 5+ year waiting lists.

A friend of mine manages the commissioning and build of big mobos, including several for MENA clients above the Feadship & Co threshold. In fact there are a few firms that specialise in these projects and I'd be happy to introduce if desired.

If however this thread is all a massive windup -- well it's still early March after all

 

[Mr Googler]

Look at the facts;
You can fantasize about being an international man of money, you can fantasize about having a superyacht, you can fantasize about graduating MIT and Harvard, you can fantasize about rescuing people from natural disasters.
But nobody fantasizes about being a Kiwi.
I like him!

That's very true My mum is a kiwi

I've certainly gone from being a doubter to hoping it's all true. What this lacks is pictures......many many pictures!