Cruise Reports Taking our yacht to Sweden for the summer - any 50m marinas?

Deleted User said:
Get yourself a new crew and sack whichever manager didnt think about this. In theory and AFAIK the NZs will have to leave the EU and not come back again for another 6 months but I guess a call to the NZ embassy in Sweden might clarify the situation

Or failing that, get the boat out beyond the 12 mile limit into international waters and carry on working if you can
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Tend to be drawn to your sentiments here Mike; so have offered everyone tickets home. They can come back in July, it's 90 days of any 180 day period, excluding the UK. The British Embassy has been helpful; so we'll see. Being a foreign boat does appear to help. The yard can keep working on her no problems - Just my crazy crew. And their pro-longed plans... sorry too for the delay in the Forum Cruise to Witherspoons.

That's the major issue at hand.
 
Divemaster1 said:
UK is not part of the Shengen agreement area.... if seaworthy, a move across to Scotland may buy you some more time ...
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Seaworthy is good. Just the captain/engineer are now in another hemisphere as we wait.

Oh the endless costs of that amazing dinghy/tender and its fabulous trailer axle problems...............
 
Wouldn't it pay to hire a crew to take it to Greece where you have it booked in for it's refit and just get on with it instead of wasting money leaving it where it is? I would also sack your crew that was involved in the tender farce! :ambivalence::confused:
 
Looking at this from the outside I do get the impression your crew are taking the p1ss. I would treat the whole trailer fiasco as a practical interview and not renew contracts. 20 minutes on the internet can track down any trailer part, especially for a well known brand such as Indespension (I think I'm right in saying it was their brand?). Similarly delivery services throughout Europe are well organised and readily available. We have even seen trailers moved around using members of this very forum for other members.

You need a crew who have your total interest at heart as well as good practical knowledge. There are plenty of technically competent people out there, now more than ever before. If your crew, who are essentially your eyes and ears, are not looking after you this is going to bankrupt you. Maybe not practically but figuratively and it will destroy your pleasure.

If someone can't sort out a trailer how are they going source and fit a flanged pump bearing and seal whilst stranded in some far flung corner of the world. When parts are available they need to recognise and acquire, they need to preempt, they need to spot ineffective subcontractors. They need to have your back.

To be kicking their heels around and then to run out of time when you need them is madness.

I would be taking advice and learning how the professionals do things. See this as an opportunity to draw a line.

Henry :)
 
Yes!

I think i might intetview all senior staff from now on via the Boat method. And the Monty Burster (was that the movie?) Approach. It reveals a lot.

The intention I'm told was taking the trip to the UK as a part holiday for them. Anyway. We'll see what happens. There have been other developments which I'm quite excited about; so will keep everyone posted.

Next 2 weeks for me are another intense work weeks coming up; as have been the last 10 days - so looking forward to getting through that.

Apologies in advance.

R.
 
So whereabouts precisely is this ship located in Stavanger (I think I recall this being mentioned as the location, but not reviewed all 650 posts)? I may be passing through briefly in next few days, with Custard to hand!

Amongst (many) other things I don't understand, going back to the OP's original post, why would a New Zealander with a 50m semi-converted commercial ship need to worry about waiting till "the North Sea calms down in July".
Surely the North Sea is a little pond for a boat like that, certainly nothing compared to Southern oceans or the waters around NZ? They are not commonly reckoned as wimps these New Zealanders when they get into boats - many of the finest and fastest yacht skippers & crews in the world.

Capital_R said:
Hi team,

Anyone got any first hand knowledge of marinas in Sweden/Northern Europe?

There's this newly acquired 50m expedition boat that im super excited about taking delivery of, coming out of a yard in Norway - the plan was to head to Greece for the summer, but - usual story - work is getting in the way and I'm becoming too time constrained to get to the med right now.

Anyone got any recommendations as to facilities in Northern Europe/Scandinavia that would make sense?

She's 49m×10m×3.7m

Time is my issue. Sadly. But going to make an effort over summer. Maybe Greece after the north sea calms down during July?!

I often have to fly in/fly out - so want somewhere to keep her safely. Crew usually comes and goes with me, so likely to be 1-2 people aboard if I'm not there (she's a NZ flagged pleasure yacht; so no full time crew requirements)

Best;

R.
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dunedin said:
So whereabouts precisely is this ship located in Stavanger (I think I recall this being mentioned as the location, but not reviewed all 650 posts)? I may be passing through briefly in next few days, with Custard to hand!

Amongst (many) other things I don't understand, going back to the OP's original post, why would a New Zealander with a 50m semi-converted commercial ship need to worry about waiting till "the North Sea calms down in July".
Surely the North Sea is a little pond for a boat like that, certainly nothing compared to Southern oceans or the waters around NZ? They are not commonly reckoned as wimps these New Zealanders when they get into boats - many of the finest and fastest yacht skippers & crews in the world.
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The North Sea deserves respect. It's not a "little pond" for anything, least of all for a vessel and crew that needs a shakedown. There is nothing "wimpy" about being cautious. As they say, you have to hope your experience bucket fills up before your luck bucket runs out.
 
sorabain said:
The North Sea deserves respect. It's not a "little pond" for anything, least of all for a vessel and crew that needs a shakedown. There is nothing "wimpy" about being cautious. As they say, you have to hope your experience bucket fills up before your luck bucket runs out.
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Stavanger to Dover channel is under 48 hours journey for a small ship like that. XC Weather and PassageWeather give 7 day forecasts, and can generally find a stable and predictable window for at least 1-3 days. Certainly been 3 or 4 such windows so far in April alone.
Plus a steel ex-commercial ship with crew will be designed to be at sea in all weathers, it ain't a little GRP French Pecheur.
 
dunedin said:
Stavanger to Dover channel is under 48 hours journey for a small ship like that. XC Weather and PassageWeather give 7 day forecasts, and can generally find a stable and predictable window for at least 1-3 days. Certainly been 3 or 4 such windows so far in April alone.
Plus a steel ex-commercial ship with crew will be designed to be at sea in all weathers, it ain't a little GRP French Pecheur.
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Hi Dunedin,

Nice to meet you, welcome!

It's a long story. Weather wise, I'd love to do the trip. So finding a triple coincidence of having familiar crew, having nice weather, and having me available is a tall order.

Add to that, the goal was to get to greece and then to Turkey for dawn in the 25th of April.... travel plans become a little irrelevant if she can't make the events.

She's in a great spot now. I don't have any deadlines until June. She's not complete enough to venture out to the America's Cup either... so she can just stay put for now.

If you feel the need to go find the boat and be intro'd to the crew, that's nice. But I don't yet know you; and of all the things I worry about at the moment, custard is firmly in the 'nice to have' category at present - but thank you for the offer.

Are you from Otago; or is there another South Edinburgh out there somewhere?
 
Wow!

We just rolled over the 50,000 views mark; what an adventure.

I was in the Far East (am now in the Pacific) last week, and saw a great wee article on Foiling Catamarans for sale now for $12k-18k for large winged hobi/tormado sized vessels, claiming to be suitable for recreational sailing.

Then... i saw a google-funded hover bike (price unknown), certified for over-water flights only at this stage.

Coming back to this project - did anyome else see that article in the WSJ and is that real?

It would be awwsome to have a couple of those as the feature toys on the back!

Thoughts?
 
Wow, 50,000 views and the boat hasn't even moved yet!;). And just a few sporadic pics, none with custard:confused:
I thought you were looking to move her about a month or so back, before your crew issues. Alt was on standby to help, but nothing happened.

Let's have some actual action:encouragement::encouragement::encouragement:
 
Sorry to bring this up but a quick search on Marine Traffic indicates this boat hasn't moved? Was it a Troll? Bouba, any news on your Billionaire best mate lol :D Who lived in the area .....did it move? The MMSI for Guard Aleta shows it's still current and the new MMSI he gave is void.
 
MrB said:
Sorry to bring this up but a quick search on Marine Traffic indicates this boat hasn't moved? Was it a Troll? Bouba, any news on your Billionaire best mate lol :D Who lived in the area .....did it move? The MMSI for Guard Aleta shows it's still current and the new MMSI he gave is void.
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I really don't know. I honestly think he is just a very busy man, I hope he gets back to his project one day
 
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