jonnyfartpants
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I have a new shinny Irish passport - thanks Ireland but the wife doesnt
I like this boat but its a bit early to be purchasing. I need some training and some balls before I buy
Take it easy on me....!
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I have a new shinny Irish passport - thanks Ireland but the wife doesnt
I like this boat but its a bit early to be purchasing. I need some training and some balls before I buy
jonnyfartpants
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And this one, but no good for the Med. It looks like it would cost gallons per mile. I will start another thread for boats and costs
jonnyfartpants
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Dam its under offer , lovely thing
pvb
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The boats you've linked to are complete money pits, you'd spend all your time and all your money on constantly repairing them. They're priced and aimed at dreamers...
V1701
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Lucky bugger! That looks lovely, may I ask why such a big boat though? What about a Nauticat 38 or similar late 30's/early 40's feet? If you do end up wanting to sail the world you might well find yourself wanting to change to something more sail oriented in a couple of years so not buying something that'll be difficult to sell on might be better?
STILL AFLOAT
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I think you mean Sextant ?£250,000 umm , maybe if you were buying brand new but i dont think I will be spending that much. perhaps around 70k mark would be more in my range. Dont get me wrong I could raise more but will need money to live off for 3 - 5 years. I have quite a lot of pilotage experience and have sailed hundreds of times but when I was a kid. As I said I used to live on a boat. We must have had a dozen different pleasure craft in those days. And then I was a commercial fisherman for 5 years working offshore, inshore and deep sea. So I do have some knowledge, although old knowledge. I can set and use plotters and VHF equipment, echo sounders, fish finders. I even once learnt how to use a sexton but when i was about 11 years old
pvb, got it spot on !
Way back in the 90s, anything around the 50 ft mark, that was going for 75 000, was a livaboard harbour wreck, that would need another 70 000 spent on it, to bring it to anywhere near seaworthy state.
Sorry but you are describing a pipe dream.
I suggest you do some research, on boats for sale and match size to price , condition & age.
The new sheets warps cordage, etc, will cost a lot, engine checks, liferaft servicing, lifejackets etc, it all adds up.
Good luck, but you might have to drop down to 36 ft, for a well maintained & healthy boat for 70 000.
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jonnyfartpants
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Yeap, you are probably right, but my father was a dreamer, he brought his boat 65' fpr £100 in the 70's, it was sunk at the time and he made it seaworthy after 5 years of hard work
jonnyfartpants
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Yes I know everyone is right and that it wouldnt be good for sailing the world but nice though. I know a GRP boat around 37 feet would be a better option, but my heart says "Buy it". But dont worry I will wait a bit and see sense, I hope
FlyingGoose
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Did he every tell your Mum how much he spent in those 5 years , bet it was his little secret ?Yeap, you are probably right, but my father was a dreamer, he brought his boat 65' fpr £100 in the 70's, it was sunk at the time and he made it seaworthy after 5 years of hard work
STILL AFLOAT
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Still a money pit..... BOAT...............Bust ..Out..... Another... Thousand !Yeap, you are probably right, but my father was a dreamer, he brought his boat 65' fpr £100 in the 70's, it was sunk at the time and he made it seaworthy after 5 years of hard work
How many years do you think .. you have ??
As said, back in the 90s, any 50 ft boats, in Marinas,priced at 70 000, were derelict live aboards !
Needing at least 70 000 more, spent on them, to make them seaworthy !
Today.... 70 000 might just buy you a well maintained 36 ft vessel.
You need a reality check !
Now......
Google boats for sale.......comparing age, with size & price !
You want a 50 ft vessel, for 70 000 .............. Pipe Dream .....
Norman_E
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For £70,000 you could get a well maintained 40-45 foot yacht in the Med. My own 45 footer is not for sale but I know that if I put it on the market now asking more than that, I would probably get about that for a well maintained, updated and equipped yacht with nothing more needing to be spent, simply because the market for boats is quite depressed.
[70521]
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Online theory courses are good. Forget the Day Skipper and go direct to Yachtmaster, not a huge difference in them but the YM covers secondary ports in more detail.
[70521]
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You get a huge amount of 36 foot vessel for that. Most people can't give them away. It is a buyer's market. Not only in the UK but friends in Oz are saying the same.
differentroads
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+1
You need to follow your own dream, of course. And you only need the ICC and VHF qualifications. I found the shorebased Yachtmaster helpful but I didn't bother with the practical. The ticket was going to be of no use to me and the teaching time works out very expensive per hour. Getting out sailing on a very cheap 24' sailing boat was much more useful for me as someone, perhaps like you, with a bit of relevant experience. I also joined a club with its own sailing cruiser to learn from smarter and more experienced skippers, and crewed on other peoples boats including a trip across Biscay. Other people use chartering to the same end.
In order to follow my dream I bought a 40 year old 34' boat that was in pretty good nick and then spent six years and nearly the same amount again bringing her up to a go-anywhere spec that I was happy with.
If I was going to do this again I'd spend the same amount buying a boat that was only a little bit bigger, but much closer to being ready to go, and much closer to my intended cruising grounds. (Its better to work on the boat in the sun than in the cold and gloom of a UK winter, I can tell you.)
A smaller boat is much, much cheaper to keep. We manage to live well in the Med on an income of £22k a year. About half of that goes on new equipment, breakages, marina fees and other boat costs (we spend half the year holed up in a marina.) If you intend to live off your capital, it gets used up heartbreakingly quickly!
LadyInBed
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RupertW
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That is such good advice, particularly the message about buying in your intended cruising grounds and something closer to being ready to go. We bought a beat up 42 footer in Croatia ten years ago and as the engine worked and even worn out sails worked mostly we fixed the rest as we went along and in warm stunning surroundings. Getting a boat ready for Biscay first would have used up too much funds and wasted too much time.
rszemeti
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Hull Material : Wood.
A 1926 wooden boat .... unless you want to spend at least half of your retirement hauling out and painting and replacing planks ... I suggest you look elsewhere.
