Survival Kit?

[squidge]

Just been on one of those managenent / team work events thought you might find this interesting <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.womenexplore.com/curriculum/artic.html>http://www.womenexplore.com/curriculum/artic.html</A>

What do you carry in your boat , car or suitcase just in case?

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[Clive_Rigden]

Rum.

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[StellaGirl]

40 Marlboro Lights...

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[Clive_Rigden]

What - to last you at least 14 days ? !!
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[StephenSails]

Surely in a survival situation Marlboro reds would be better?

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[ShipsWoofy]

carry sleeping bags in the car when going to the boat in Winter. We have to cross some pretty barren moors at highish altitude in the Snowdonia National Park. No telephone signal and lots of snow if it chooses.

Always have food when travelling to the boat, and warm clothes, so should we break down we should safely be able to wait until daylight before walking off for help. May even be able to summon help on the h/h VHF, but only if we had come off the road and one of us was injured for example.

The information on that website did not suggest if the pilot had been in contact when his plane went down, will the search parties know where to look. I would make base camp and then choose the most able small group to go and get help. Otherwise people are going to start popping off pretty quick from exposure.

But I would obviously be wrong after reading their answers.

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[Benbow]

OK, why is the compass 'Useless & dangerous'. That was my one major disagreement with the expert opinion. I rated it as highly desirable, assuming the plan is to walk out.

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[ColinW]

It's an Arctic survival course, think about it!


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[squidge]

Hi , Yes interesting isn't it.
To answer some questions , the pilot did not manage to contact anyone before he bit the bullet and the compass is useless due to the very high amount of iron ore in the area.


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[dralex]

Those wouldn't be the Denbigh Moors by any chance Ships Woofy? If so, I know them well as I used to live near there. Those are the moors you can practice making snow holes in the drifts get so big. Beautiful drive though.

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[Benbow]

Aha, didn't think of that.

But I make them about 2,000 NM from the N mag pole and they have a map. Is a compass unuseable there ?

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[capricorn]

Whenever I do this exercise some sicko invariably suggests eating the pilot.

Looks like they've modified the scenario so that the wreck of the plane sinks irrecoverably with the pilot's body so than cannibalism is no longer an option !

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[ColinW]

Without looking it up, would you know the magnetic declination at that place? I imagine it's pretty big.

Actually I think I'm probably on completely the wrong track and the reason the expert says it's useless is just because they are supposed to stay where they are




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[NigelW]

Magnetic variation in that area could be significant, especially if your do not know what it is, or means.
The variation could be as much as 40deg. It was something quite high in Alberta, on the prairies, not to be ignired,especially in the snow.
I would still comsider it to be a valuable peice of equipment.

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[AlexL]

Coz your supposed to stay put, not try to walk out. No 1 rule of survival that.
Rum, For starting a fire, not for drinking. Gadzooks who wrote that? Not a sailor, for sure.

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[Benbow]

There certainly are circumstances when your survival chances are increased by trying to walk out - not many granted. The rational for staying put usually revolves around a vehicle to be seen and provide shelter and supplies . This may be an exception depending on fitness of the survivors, type of terrain and estimated time before their absence is discovered.

But even if just foraging around my camp, I would like a compass.



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[dralex]

Having actually read the site now, the navigation book must be more useful than the clock because at least you can use it to help start a fire. I think Ray Meers would definately have put the inner tube higher on his list because it's good for fire lighting in damp conditions, in fact one of his favorites. ( I'm a sad B******)

Surely you could use the rope to make a huge net and catch bears to eat- you'd have to kill them with the ice axe.

To answer the post, it depends on where I live. Certainly in winter in Yorkshire and North Wales, the car would have all the cold weather emergency stuff ie sleeping bags, boots, clothes, food etc. Here in Devon. Don't bother in Devon.

I also went through a phase of carrying emergency medical kit in the car as I always ended up being one of the first at nasty crashes. I don't do the mileage anymore, so my car now has nothing emergency wise in it at all apart from some lip salve.

Surely there's an argument for every car having a DSC VHF and EPIRB in these days of dangerous driving. You wouldn't even have to get out of the car. Nice.

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[Gordonmc]

I would plump for one night's camp with fire to dry out, then tabbing North for a couple of days to get closer to the planned route of the plane. That's where the search will be centred. Energy levels wouldn't be sustained walking much further.
At that time of year a compass wouldn't be essential with the sun so low in the South.
After making the thirty miles, bunker down and wait.
Of course, by then the polar bears will have had their fill!


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[mirabriani]

Some years ago, when the grandchildren were younger, I convinced them I used to be in the S.A.S. I still carry the S.A.S. survival guide, a flint device for making fire, a knife and, in winter, warm clothing. Some of the boys still remember their camp craft and how to deal with a wild animal attack. Trouble is, I am in constant fear of a real emergency, when I would be "found out" as a fraud.

Regards Briani

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[AlexL]

some US cars automatically phone the emergency services with a GPS posit if the airbag deploys

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