Surfing is OK then ?

Triassic said:
I think when the regulations came out four weeks ago the interpretation of "reasonable excuse" for leaving home was pretty much to the letter of the examples given and we saw some pretty draconian and ridiculous attempts to enforce that. Policing is something that evolves and adapts and we have now seen some "best practice" advice being offered along with a pretty good steer from both the public and officialdom as to what might be reasonable.

If I was in your shoes I would probably first establish if where the boat is is somewhere that I am allowed (i.e.: not a marina who have banned the public or a yacht club that have prohibited owners from working on their boats) and I would then consider if by going there and working on my boat am I going to be able to do it discretely (and safely) without putting others noses out of joint. I would have thought if the police actually did try and question what you are doing if you could demonstrate what you were doing, and how you were doing it, was responsible and represented no threat to others then you would be well on your way to acting reasonably.

Not a recommendation that you carry on, but just my offering on things you might need to consider.
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The yard is open and manned. The boat is ashore. A couple of times when out cycling I have dropped in on the boat to check the batteries and pump out any rainwater but apart from that I have been a good boy and looked on trips to the boat as unnecessary travel. I have no immediate plans to do anything else, and setting off with a car full of tools for a day's fitting out would probably upset some of the neighbours.

Just before lock down I brought home the companionway steps and the engine cover so I really should get on with sanding and varnishing those!
 
My son who lives in Plymouth does a lot of surfing and windsurfing. Not doing much of that at the moment - running and cycling up and down Dartmoor instead.
One of the surfing gang came back from skiing in Japan in February and shortly afterwards he and all his friends had a few days sick with flu-like symptoms.
 
James_Calvert said:
COVID-19 FAQs

You can't drive to go swimming or surfing.

You can take a breather if your exercise is exhausting but you can't sit around just for the fresh air.

I don't surf but most people just seem to be hanging around waiting for the perfect wave. Arguably that's not exercise?

I think we need to keep our heads down and wait to see how they will relax rules and maybe tighten others as we move to another phase.
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Bit of of a misleading 'interpretation' there, JC. Your link refers to advice, not instructions, from D&CP, and nowhere does it state "You can't drive to go swimming or surfing".
Rather: "The RNLI has stated that as there are no lifeguards on our region’s beaches it is not recommended that you exercise in the sea....For these reasons, we do not recommend that people go surfing. "
 
What a load of sour pusses on here, oh some one is out on the water lets try and quote the rules and tell them the car parks are closed
No the carparks are not closed at this beach
No doubt it is the locals who go all the time surfing are out
Surfing is exercise , As an Ex surfer I can tell you it is , you try getting past the break being unhealthy
Social distancing , when I surfed why would I want to sit next to my other surfers it is dangerous and only truly happens in a group you know. if at all
And for the love of the wee man can we stop trying to interpret the guidelines to suit you own fascination with stay oat home
It was made perfectly clear on the new guidelines that travelling by car to exercise is legal
Define exercise
noun
To exercise is defined as to engage in physical activity for the purposes of working your body to stay healthy.

verb
The definition of exercise is to use something or to engage in physical activity done in order to stay healthy
Who would like to argue sailing is not exercise or surfing :rolleyes:
 
Quiddle said:
Bit of of a misleading 'interpretation' there, JC. Your link refers to advice, not instructions, from D&CP, and nowhere does it state "You can't drive to go swimming or surfing".
Rather: "The RNLI has stated that as there are no lifeguards on our region’s beaches it is not recommended that you exercise in the sea....For these reasons, we do not recommend that people go surfing. "
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I wasn't aware the RNLI had any legal powers.
 
FlyingGoose said:
What a load of sour pusses on here, oh some one is out on the water lets try and quote the rules and tell them the car parks are closed
No the carparks are not closed at this beach
No doubt it is the locals who go all the time surfing are out
Surfing is exercise , As an Ex surfer I can tell you it is , you try getting past the break being unhealthy
Social distancing , when I surfed why would I want to sit next to my other surfers it is dangerous and only truly happens in a group you know. if at all
And for the love of the wee man can we stop trying to interpret the guidelines to suit you own fascination with stay oat home
It was made perfectly clear on the new guidelines that travelling by car to exercise is legal
Define exercise
noun
To exercise is defined as to engage in physical activity for the purposes of working your body to stay healthy.

verb
The definition of exercise is to use something or to engage in physical activity done in order to stay healthy
Who would like to argue sailing is not exercise or surfing :rolleyes:
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Yes, but alone or with another person, who is a member of your household.
 
Sharky34 said:
Yes, but alone or with another person, who is a member of your household.
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Sharky , tell you what as you are so concerned about all this why do you not get down there and ask them if they know each other , or if you are really stressed about seeing people out , and your twisted logic cannot fathom it is legal and within their rights to do so , why not phone plod.
Oh wait I know because surfing beaches are not hidden away wee gems than no one knows about , this is a well known spot for surfers and no doubt plod has been down and knows them all as locals , getting their exercise and their mental health stimulant, and more importantly than anything else getting their UVB rays that turn their cholesterol in their skin to Vitamin D which is an important factor in the Immune system , therefore actually protecting themselves against the virus , not putting a strain on the NHS or other services . But you stay in your bunker Uncle sam made for you and we will give you a chap on the door , mmm lets say 2030 sound good for you :LOL:
 
FlyingGoose said:
Sharky , tell you what as you are so concerned about all this why do you not get down there and ask them if they know each other , or if you are really stressed about seeing people out , and your twisted logic cannot fathom it is legal and within their rights to do so , why not phone plod.
Oh wait I know because surfing beaches are not hidden away wee gems than no one knows about , this is a well known spot for surfers and no doubt plod has been down and knows them all as locals , getting their exercise and their mental health stimulant, and more importantly than anything else getting their UVB rays that turn their cholesterol in their skin to Vitamin D which is an important factor in the Immune system , therefore actually protecting themselves against the virus , not putting a strain on the NHS or other services . But you stay in your bunker Uncle sam made for you and we will give you a chap on the door , mmm lets say 2030 sound good for you :LOL:
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It doesn't matter if they "know each other" does it.
What matters is the likelyhood that they will spread the virus, should one of them be infected.
My logic isn't twisted, logic rarely is, but if rules are being broken, that puts the rest of us at risk.
Hidden away under your stone up in Scotland, it is easy to dismiss the threat in Cornwall. However, I have family down there & have concerns for them because of covidiot pillocks.
 
Sharky34 said:
It doesn't matter if they "know each other" does it.
What matters is the likelyhood that they will spread the virus, should one of them be infected.
My logic isn't twisted, logic rarely is, but if rules are being broken, that puts the rest of us at risk.
Hidden away under your stone up in Scotland, it is easy to dismiss the threat in Cornwall. However, I have family down there & have concerns for them because of covidiot pillocks.
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Sometimes on cannot argue with stupidity.
Do your relatives live under a rock too , good for them :oops:
 
Quiddle said:
Bit of of a misleading 'interpretation' there, JC. Your link refers to advice, not instructions, from D&CP, and nowhere does it state "You can't drive to go swimming or surfing".
Rather: "The RNLI has stated that as there are no lifeguards on our region’s beaches it is not recommended that you exercise in the sea....For these reasons, we do not recommend that people go surfing. "
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OK.

On rereading it it says

You should not drive to go swimming

and

You should not drive to go surfing.

The difference between my interpretation and what's written is legalistic nitpicking.

The message is clear to me. The Devon and Cornwall police don't want you to do it. And if an officer stops you with a surfboard on your roof on the road to the beach he won't be persuaded by your explanation that it's an essential journey.
 
James_Calvert said:
OK.

On rereading it it says

You should not drive to go swimming

and

You should not drive to go surfing.

The difference between my interpretation and what's written is legalistic nitpicking.

The message is clear to me. The Devon and Cornwall police don't want you to do it. And if an officer stops you with a surfboard on your roof on the road to the beach he won't be persuaded by your explanation that it's an essential journey.
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Can you give any examples of this happening, I have seen plenty of swimmers in the sea of Brighton on the news (in the background as they kicked of sunbathers) did not see plod swimming out to them, it seems as usual people think they have all the answers when the guidelines clearly give us them. wild swimming , canoeing , dinghy sailing , are all classed as exercise and you can do them , clearly if there is a closer place to do this do it be responsible and keep your distance, this is called common sense , which many are following.
 
James_Calvert said:
The message is clear to me. The Devon and Cornwall police don't want you to do it. And if an officer stops you with a surfboard on your roof on the road to the beach he won't be persuaded by your explanation that it's an essential journey.
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He might not, but then again he might..... unless of course you in a position to categorically speak on behalf of Devon and Cornwall police? It doesn't have to be an "essential journey" it just has to be reasonable and it's been held to be reasonable to drive somewhere for the purpose of taking exercise there.

Just out of interest if instead of a surfboard on the roof it was a bicycle and he was driving out of town to enjoy a ride in the countryside would that be any different?
 
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