Superyachts
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Mister E
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I would not want one, if I am going to be seasick I want the pleasure of driving the thing myself.
I enjoy the doing side of sailing, that is the reason our boat has sails. Maybe being able to pay to get all the stuff maintained and polished. Plus all the latest new toys fitted.
I enjoy the doing side of sailing, that is the reason our boat has sails. Maybe being able to pay to get all the stuff maintained and polished. Plus all the latest new toys fitted.
Zing
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Your idea is how I am trying to do it, just not succeeding at it. My maintenance outfit continually fail to get through the jobs list and it’s impossibly hard to find people who deliver. I’m quite close to trying with an engineer on the payroll. Ideally, if possible, on an off-season contract. When I pitch up, he will go. I can’t have paid crew on board. I’ve tried it several times. It’s like sharing your house with a stranger and as I don’t have or plan to have a superyacht there’s no way to get peace or privacy.
westernman
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Yes. I have also the difficulty in finding reliable people to get stuff done. Every winter when my boat goes on the hard for maintenance and for fixing stuff, it comes back with yet more stuff broken. I can throw money at it, but it still does not seem to work.
Stemar
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As do I. Only trouble is, I'm the one who's supposed to be doing it all ?
Blueboatman
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Surely the support vessel and crew follow along just out of sight over the horizon ??
Clancy Moped
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Chase vessel.....
mullet
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To answer the OP, based on my experiences as crew on an >150 ' sailing superyacht in the 00s "what you do with it it" varied a lot from boat to boat:
- Not much if one didn't charter it out (boat I was on did <1000 miles in the Med season I was aboard, despite never having fewer than 7 crew, although the previous owner had used it masses)
- Lots if one chartered out - the eye-watering running costs and depreciation won't look after themselves
- As status symbol/willy waving for some owners. Much more the case for owners of mobos but still the case with many sailing boats.
- Some were used as conspicuous stores of wealth (particularly for owners from less politically stable places).
- Some seemed to be used as a source of staff to whom owners (and expecially their wives, and sometimes their domestic staff from their main home) would be beastly.
- Accommodation for the hareem or the prostitutes (and some of the stuff that was pretty horrifying) or as a place to do the things one didn't want to have observed at home.
- Let it out as a film set for pornographic films (the Cannes pornography festival was a HUGE event)
Frogmogman
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I understood that what happened was Cap’n Bob asked a particularly dim blonde to toss him off.Dont you know about the last orders the Skipper of the Lady Ghislane gave to the First Mate?
When it was clear he was not on board the immediate investigation caused the Skipper to say to the first mate " You Idiot!!!! I said throw the flat anchor over, not the Fat Wanker!!! "
Daydream believer
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My experience of paying people to do jobs is that you would have to give instructions 6 months in advance. When you got there half the stuff would be wrong & the boat would still be on the hard waiting for the antifoul to be applied
Daydream believer
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Talking of super yachts makes me think of more achievable yachts for many. ( not me though).There are currently lots of yards producing new 50-60 ft yachts. Take for instance a 60 ft Oyster. Some might say the height of luxury in its class.
But as an east coast sailor with little desire to leave my current insurance sailing area ie La Rochelle to the Elbe. Perhaps the Baltic one day. Where can I take it without loads of hassle? Docking in my favourite haunts, Boulogne, Dieppe, Cherbourg, St Peter Port, St Hellier, Ostend. Not to mention the French ports such as Camaret etc & further round the corner, or nearer home such as Ramsgate to Lowestoft. The Dutch canals are all pretty much out. 45 ft & one can get away with that, but much over50 ft must be difficult.
It must be a real pain just getting a berth. At least with my miniscule 31 ft boat I can sail on my own & berth just about anywhere that does not dry. - But I would like something about 38 ft if only I was younger.
But no way would I want the hassle of a bigger boat & having to arrange crew to suit me.
But as an east coast sailor with little desire to leave my current insurance sailing area ie La Rochelle to the Elbe. Perhaps the Baltic one day. Where can I take it without loads of hassle? Docking in my favourite haunts, Boulogne, Dieppe, Cherbourg, St Peter Port, St Hellier, Ostend. Not to mention the French ports such as Camaret etc & further round the corner, or nearer home such as Ramsgate to Lowestoft. The Dutch canals are all pretty much out. 45 ft & one can get away with that, but much over50 ft must be difficult.
It must be a real pain just getting a berth. At least with my miniscule 31 ft boat I can sail on my own & berth just about anywhere that does not dry. - But I would like something about 38 ft if only I was younger.
But no way would I want the hassle of a bigger boat & having to arrange crew to suit me.
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westernman
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Unfortunately my experience is the same as well. Including still being on the hard waiting for the antifouling.My experience of paying people to do jobs is that you would have to give instructions 6 months in advance. When you got there half the stuff would be wrong & the boat would still be on the hard waiting for the antifoul to be applied
Fr J Hackett
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In common with all tradesmen and artisans those in the marine trade will take on what work is offered to them and deal with the fall out when they are late in delivering it's a fact of life.
However those that deal with "Superyachts" are different from those that deal with run of the mill yachties and Mobo owners, you don't piss about and piss off a multimillionaire and his agent who assigns millions of euros a work each year for multiple superyachts. I have a feeling that a lot of people in this thread have little idea as to what a "superyacht" really is and it goes way beyond the 24M that an ICC holder can skipper. An Oyster 60 wouldn't even get a look in.
However those that deal with "Superyachts" are different from those that deal with run of the mill yachties and Mobo owners, you don't piss about and piss off a multimillionaire and his agent who assigns millions of euros a work each year for multiple superyachts. I have a feeling that a lot of people in this thread have little idea as to what a "superyacht" really is and it goes way beyond the 24M that an ICC holder can skipper. An Oyster 60 wouldn't even get a look in.
Daydream believer
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Of course, An Oyster 60 would be deck cargo as a play thing. However, it is more relevant to a few forumites who have benefitted from inheritance, property sale. or business exchange etc. So worth a mention.
Wansworth
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Super yacht owners may have”friends” who don’t like waiting??
capnsensible
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There are, apparently, 27 super yachts over 328 feet in build at the moment. That's something to ponder....
Daydream believer
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A lot of wealthy people with the ability to "disappear" at the first sign of trouble.
Perhaps they know something that we do not
Fr J Hackett
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A lot of wealthy people with the ability to "disappear" at the first sign of trouble.
Perhaps they know something that we do not
The supper yacht is the same to a multi millionaire or billionaire as is the luxury car to the upper middle class successful family that have significant disposable income and are effectively looking for something to spend it on.
Stemar
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A 100 m long superyacht is hardly disappearing! If I wanted to get somewhere unnoticed, I'd chose something a bit smaller - my Catalac would do nicely, though perhaps a bit too distinctive. An AWB then. Or my private jet if I were in the superyacht income bracketA lot of wealthy people with the ability to "disappear" at the first sign of trouble.
Perhaps they know something that we do not
Bouba
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Almost all superyachts are available for charter in between owners visits.
On the downside they have a negative effect on marinas. The money involved causes marinas to accommodate more and more (bigger and bigger) eventually this has an impact on small boats, as they are pushed out.
Then there is the wake which can often be dangerous.
But all in all I’m usually fascinated when I see one.
But please, no more hideous designs
On the downside they have a negative effect on marinas. The money involved causes marinas to accommodate more and more (bigger and bigger) eventually this has an impact on small boats, as they are pushed out.
Then there is the wake which can often be dangerous.
But all in all I’m usually fascinated when I see one.
But please, no more hideous designs