newtothis
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Now go to your insurer and say you were off your anchored boat when a drunk/distracted/beginner mobo driver clipped your rigging and your mast came down. Did you have your anchor ball up? No? Oh dear, never mind.
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Blue Seas
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Err, I didn't say that I was anchored! Why would I need to be displaying an anchor ball? As I said in my first post, those who wish to treat an anchor ball as the definitive test as to whether or not a vessel is actually anchored are welcome to do so. I look for much more evidence - that's my choice / decision. If you wish to rely on the anchor ball alone then crack on.
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Little Tern
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Do you know of any cases where this has happened? A motor boat collided with an anchored boat, and... and what? Are you saying that the anchored boat's insurance didn't pay out? The mobo's insurance didn't pay out? because the anchored boat wasn't showing a black ball?
Please tell us all the gory details!
capnsensible
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Port side of fwd radio mast. This is not a dificult question. Good example though.
Chiara’s slave
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We use the ball. We don’t even have a cone. But then, we never motorsail. Except for the 10 seconds between completing the mainsail hoist and turning the engine off.
Chiara’s slave
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Do people run into aircraft carriers when they are anchored? A Specsavers moment, I think.
capnsensible
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Let's face it, the only reason people don't hoist an anchor ball is that they can't be bothered.
Motor cone. We all know its rarely used. Perhaps by sailors who know they will be motoring for a while. And may encounter other vessels that haven't got a scooby how a sailing boat works.
As I mentioned up thread, isn't it amazing how busy professional vessels find time to comply with colregs. And when they don't for some reason of advanced muppetry, there is always the Forum Accident Investigaton Board to reckon with.
Motor cone. We all know its rarely used. Perhaps by sailors who know they will be motoring for a while. And may encounter other vessels that haven't got a scooby how a sailing boat works.
As I mentioned up thread, isn't it amazing how busy professional vessels find time to comply with colregs. And when they don't for some reason of advanced muppetry, there is always the Forum Accident Investigaton Board to reckon with.
S04
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No of course they don't. An aircraft carrier that's moored, well that's a completely different matter.
Blue Seas
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More busy professionals demonstrating with absolute clarity the fact that they are securely anchored to the seabed. Rest assured, you may safely pass close ahead of this vessel until such time as that ball is lowered.
capnsensible
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That's not an anchor ball. It's the top of a snort induction mast of a dived submarine running at periscope depth, probably for a photo shoot.More busy professionals demonstrating with absolute clarity the fact that they are securely anchored to the seabed. Rest assured, you may safely pass close ahead of this vessel until such time as that ball is lowered.
Or to Signal to crab air where they are before they finally give up and go home for tea and stickies.
Blue Seas
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Yeah, Yeah, Yeah - next you'll be telling us that the Sbd'd hand cone bouy on the front mast is an attack periscope.
capnsensible
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Well done.
Blue Seas
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No credit for me, all down to the external hydraulics and the outside wrecker.
S04
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Happy daysMore busy professionals demonstrating with absolute clarity the fact that they are securely anchored to the seabed. Rest assured, you may safely pass close ahead of this vessel until such time as that ball is lowered.
Supertramp
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I don't use an anchor ball, and I usually anchor well out the way of passing vessels. I also leave the mizzen up sometimes to compound the confusion. But I do always turn my AIS to "anchor" so that anyone with AIS can see me.
If anyone manages to run into me while anchored I suspect anchor balls and AIS would not save me.
If anyone manages to run into me while anchored I suspect anchor balls and AIS would not save me.
Chiara’s slave
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You’re probably right, even if your boat is not called Queen Elizabeth.
john_morris_uk
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I’m amazed that the requirement to show an anchor ball when at anchor causes so much animosity. What is the motivation for being so bloody minded as to ignore the regulations? Why give your insurance company any chance to wriggle out of a claim if somebody hits you when you’re anchored.
GEM43
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I think i see the ColRegs as a suite of rules to which we should adhere. We can't pick and choose which rule to ignore as we so desire. If we did there would surely be chaos. "I've decided that I'll ignore the turn to starboard, port to port rule". Hmmmm..... I think my GJW premium would sky rocket.
Presumably if one plays golf one has to adhere to the rules. We play sailing, why is it different for us?
Presumably if one plays golf one has to adhere to the rules. We play sailing, why is it different for us?
Little Tern
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Do they do that then?
I'm agog to hear examples of insurance companies wriggling out of claims because there was no anchor ball! Please tell all! How many per year, do you reckon?
Bouba
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Considering that the anchor ball is black...did Colregs ever intend for it to be seen ?