Sunken boat project.

Hot Property said:
In the end a sale is dependent on many factors.

Being on the Hamble where prices are higher than other places is useful.

Presentation is everything.

Mrs HP bought some nice cushions and a throw which stage the cabin nicely.

Attention to detail is important too.

I have had quite a few boats so know the routine

Either way I'll come out of this smelling of roses, barring WW3..

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Engine is on 484 hours as it was used and maintained regularly.

Just run in for a lazy 3.5 litre V6.

Honda's are good for 5,000 in commercial settings.
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Just advertise when your ready and see what happens...its not like it was in the Mariana Trench...
 
Hot Property said:
In the end a sale is dependent on many factors.

Being on the Hamble where prices are higher than other places is useful.

Presentation is everything.

Mrs HP bought some nice cushions and a throw which stage the cabin nicely.

Attention to detail is important too.

I have had quite a few boats so know the routine

Either way I'll come out of this smelling of roses, barring WW3..

Edit

Engine is on 484 hours as it was used and maintained regularly.

Just run in for a lazy 3.5 litre V6.

Honda's are good for 5,000 in commercial settings.
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Boats on the Hamble are not worth any more than other areas, owners just believe they are and think they can inflate the prices just like the marinas do there, personally I wouldn’t be buying a boat privately unless there was a big cost saving, a sunken project done up on the cheap will never be worth anywhere near a genuine we’ll looked after example, that engine after having salt water through it is nothing more than scrap, it might run now but how long will it be reliable for ? The looms will be a problem waiting to happen so will the engine internals once the corrosion starts, if it was that easy to repair the insurance company would have done it, dried out upholstery will never be right, salt water does so much damage, I would only consider this if it was fresh water damage. Would only make a nice boat if stripped back to bare shell then replace everything inside and fit new engine.
 
Hot Property said:
In the end a sale is dependent on many factors.

Being on the Hamble where prices are higher than other places is useful.

Presentation is everything.

Mrs HP bought some nice cushions and a throw which stage the cabin nicely.

Attention to detail is important too.

I have had quite a few boats so know the routine

Either way I'll come out of this smelling of roses, barring WW3..

Edit

Engine is on 484 hours as it was used and maintained regularly.

Just run in for a lazy 3.5 litre V6.

Honda's are good for 5,000 in commercial settings.
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I agree on the hours but buyers don’t. My last boat had 1500 hours on the outboard and was tricky to find the right buyer. 500 is a different proposition of course.
 
Boat2016 said:
Boats on the Hamble are not worth any more than other areas, owners just believe they are and think they can inflate the prices just like the marinas do there, personally I wouldn’t be buying a boat privately unless there was a big cost saving, a sunken project done up on the cheap will never be worth anywhere near a genuine we’ll looked after example, that engine after having salt water through it is nothing more than scrap, it might run now but how long will it be reliable for ? The looms will be a problem waiting to happen so will the engine internals once the corrosion starts, if it was that easy to repair the insurance company would have done it, dried out upholstery will never be right, salt water does so much damage, I would only consider this if it was fresh water damage. Would only make a nice boat if stripped back to bare shell then replace everything inside and fit new engine.
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My My you are certainly a profit of Doom and also it would seem someone that is very wasteful. Mind you I would not buy that engine either but for totally different reasons
 
Hot Property said:
484 hrs OK then!
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Seems a lot of hours for a 5y/o boat of that type.

Given that the Honda technician found no fault codes on the engine, is there a possibility that this engine wasn’t immersed but was a second-hand engine added to the boat after it was recovered in order to make it more saleable?
 
benjenbav said:
Seems a lot of hours for a 5y/o boat of that type.

Given that the Honda technician found no fault codes on the engine, is there a possibility that this engine wasn’t immersed but was a second-hand engine added to the boat after it was recovered in order to make it more saleable?
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The engine was immersed for a while.

I know the previous owner and sequence of events following the dunking.

It's the same engine.

The previous owners outboard guy took immediate action and the engine was run up shortly afterwards.

Yes, a few hours in the 5 year period, but it has a full service history.

And much better than sitting around for weeks until used in my opinion.

Cambridge outboards often advertise Honda's with 5,000 hrs on them so I'm not concerned when the engine is approaching 10% of it's usefulife.

Maintenance and operation is the key to longevity ( just like humans!).
 
Hot Property said:
The engine was immersed for a while.

I know the previous owner and sequence of events following the dunking.

It's the same engine.

The previous owners outboard guy took immediate action and the engine was run up shortly afterwards.

Yes, a few hours in the 5 year period, but it has a full service history.

And much better than sitting around for weeks until used in my opinion.

Cambridge outboards often advertise Honda's with 5,000 hrs on them so I'm not concerned when the engine is approaching 10% of it's usefulife.

Maintenance and operation is the key to longevity ( just like humans!).
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Not so much thinking of it being a lot of hours for the engine; rather that 100 hours/year for five years is a lot more than I’d expect for a 21ft cuddy.

But, I guess it is what it is, a heavily used boat that’s suffered an immersion.
 
21 ft cuddy: unlikely to be used in winter or when the weather is rubbish. So, in UK there’s what, 20 weekends, max?

What exactly do you do on a 21ft cuddy that means you’re putting 5 hours on the engine every respectable weekend?
 
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benjenbav said:
21 ft cuddy: unlikely to be used in winter or when the weather is rubbish. So, in UK there’s what, 20 weekends, max?

What exactly do you do on a 21ft cuddy that means you’re putting 5 hours on the engine every respectable weekend?
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Fishing?
In chatting to the marina staff where I am their view is there are 3 type of boats:


Boats used for fishing - used all the time. Most used boats in the marina. The actual boating is incidental to the main hobby.

Motorboats for pleasure. Very rarely used, or at least taken out of the marina.

Sailing boats. Used a bit more than motor boats. How much used inversely proportional to their size.
 
potentillaCO32 said:
Fishing?
In chatting to the marina staff where I am their view is there are 3 type of boats:


Boats used for fishing - used all the time. Most used boats in the marina. The actual boating is incidental to the main hobby.

Motorboats for pleasure. Very rarely used, or at least taken out of the marina.

Sailing boats. Used a bit more than motor boats. How much used inversely proportional to their size.
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Maybe. Not the boat I’d choose for serious fishing:
 

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benjenbav said:
21 ft cuddy: unlikely to be used in winter or when the weather is rubbish. So, in UK there’s what, 20 weekends, max?

What exactly do you do on a 21ft cuddy that means you’re putting 5 hours on the engine every respectable weekend?
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Someone who actually enjoys boating and has the time and resources to support it....

22ft actually.

The previous owner and I, facilitate an annual boat rally in Torquay on the late May bank holiday.

Add in various other mini meets brings the total hours above the average 50 hours for a leisure boat.
 
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