Suggestions for nosh when you ai'nt got a fridge.

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A good place to start for more information on this sort of thing would be Annie Hill's classic, Voyaging on a Small Income. She is looking at keeping food fresh over multi-week ocean crossings
She is vegetarian and is big into beans.

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Not sure I would fancy a multi week ocean crossing with someone on this diet.

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Are but never need to whistle for some wind! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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I have taken a leaf out of Snowleopard's book and stocked up on Stagg's Dynamite Chile in a tin. <tune - Ring of Fire>

Unless you have intestinal parasites you want rid of - avoid the extra hot.

Alternatively, for Ransome lovers - take a tin of pemican, some fresh eggs wrapped in brown paper and lashings of ginger beer.
 
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I've managed for ages, and love my cooking so don't make any old rubbish.

Curry is king, but also pasta. Tins of tuna last for ages. You can also stock up on tins of chopped tomatoes. Get loads of them because they are the base of all good meals. A chopped onion from up, maybe some mushrooms too (you can get them in tins, or jars with olive oil) then add your chopped tomatoes and a tin of tuna and some spices to suit.

I do curry on the same basis, expect it usually involves a trip ashore to the local butchers for some fresh meat. Make up a big portion, eat half, put the other half in a tupperware box, and shove it in the bilges until the following day.

Another trick for pasta is salami and various dried meats. Fry it up with some onion and whatever else you have to hand, and away you go. Just add pasta.

The possibilities are endless. Just remember, our grandads survived without a fridge, so we can too. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
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Thanks for all your suggestions,if I act on half of them it will improve my home life also....Particularly like the idea of using a blow lamp in place of a grill & keeping sheep around the boat somewhere,would be novel to say the least.
I did'nt know that eggs will keep & yes I had considered Fray Bentos stake & kidney boil in the tin things but they seem to require 45 minute boiling which I don't think is all that practical.Used to like the Ginsters small ones until ASDA stopped stocking them recently.
Thanks again & I shall certainly not use the word nosh in public particularly if the sheep are present /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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If you use tinned stuff, try adding fresh onions and garlic, which keep for a week or two. Although potatoes seem hard work, you can cook enough to have the leftovers cold the following day.

If you have a freezer at home, stuff a cool box with frozen mince, bacon, filtered milk, pizzas, and water in any space remaining.
 
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When I was a lad we were able to get powered egg, is it still available if so from where??

cheers

David
 
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Looks like a cool box thing might well be the way to go.
Just as a matter of interest a factory that made that powdered egg stuff not far from me has just closed down.Judging from the smells that used to come from the place occasionally though I would'nt have recommended their products.(I am not sure that the eggs that they used were always of the freshest).Also a lot of cats were seen to go in & never come out /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif(only joking).
 
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Cool-box - if you have the electric type - they drain batterys like mad ! They can be 5A up to 7 ... 8A in some cases.

Waeco / similar though are proper fridge boxes and regulated - much better machines but expensive.

With standard cool box as I have - to stop battery drain problem - I have fitted a car relay so that when engine starts - the box clicks on. Stop engine and box clicks off. It may not be ideal answer to keep it cool - but every little helps !
 
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We have the standalone Thermos cool box - no electric, still good after a couple of days, with ice packs from the freezer, or bottles of frozen water instead.
 
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Wouldnt like to admit this to a friend but I quite like something called Beanfeast chilly. Its soya /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif and its dried like the old Vesta curries if you remember them. But its really tasty if a bit antisocila after a pint or two.

fed it to my crew last trip and they tried it only cos the alternative was hunger. Both or them really enjoyed it.
 
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Fritata... very simple but great meal, I blagged some potatoes and an onion from the New Inn at Shadfleet recently for an impromptu meal onboard. I boiled the spuds but tinned would work out fine, slice the cooked tats, fry the chopped onion and layer up in your frying pan, cover with beaten egg... add flavours if you like, loads of variations then cook gently in your pan till set. serve with some salad stuff/bread

also easy is a toasted sandwich in your frying pan, cheese and ham? make sandwich as normal, butter (benecol stuff works) one side, put in hot pan and butter the other side whilst sat in the pan, flip to complete cooking, nice with a bit of rocking horse!

As an aside, I have read that vacuum packing prolongs life of most foods, you can also cook/reheat foods in the bags.. Seems like an ideal answer to eating good food onboard. Anybody doing this? where do you buy the equipment
 
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When I was a lad we were able to get powered egg, is it still available if so from where??

cheers

David

[/ QUOTE ]Powdered egg is still available, but why bother. I have kept eggs for weeks without a fridge - even in the tropics. Try coating them with olive oil if you are really worried, but I never bother.

Just be careful when you open them in case you have a bad one! I may be lucky, but its never happened yet.
 
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vacuum packs.... try freezer bags and vacuum cleaner, same principal.

Smoked and curried foods (and slightly salted) will keep longer and if only on a short cruise between shops cook things first and then put between ice in cooler.

I just bought me a 3l Prestige pressure cooker and lots of 2nd hand press' cook books off Amazon so I'm off to experiment.
If you pressure cook something for 20mins ech day it will kill all bugs so you can keep a stewpot going.
I don't have a built in fridge onboard but I've recently bought acouple of large 26L. 12v coolbox/fridges which do a good job for £40ea. see...
http://www.marine-super-store.com/posit/shop/index.php?selectedpartno=99169589 They have a fairly large current draw, like most fridges, at 4.5 a/hr which leaves the cigar lighter plug and socket a bit warm if not hot, but I have a wind generator which helps me to offset that.
With this and the usual doubled up coolbags and ice blocks I can keep going for 4 days in the summer with fresh uncooked food without problems.
 
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I just bought me a 3l Prestige pressure cooker and lots of 2nd hand press' cook books off Amazon so I'm off to experiment.
If you pressure cook something for 20mins ech day it will kill all bugs so you can keep a stewpot going.

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However, what you may not get rid of is toxins created by bugs growing between cookings. You could end up with botulism or other forms of bacterial poisoning this way. See this for more information
 
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Hi APRC
thanks for that, but within that info is this..........
'Most exotoxins can be destroyed by heating'. ??????

Wouldn't heating under pressure solve that?

My parents and grandparents since the war 'til recent years, kept a pressure cooker stewpot going during the winter months for about a week at a time. They used to live off the land and add the odd rabbit, pheasant and veg' etc...Am I lucky to be alive or have you not got your facts right?
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Scotty
 
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It is the level of heating required - at least 120 degrees C, according to specific articles on botulism, and some are not destroyed by heating. Note that the exotoxin article only says "MOST" are destroyed by heating. I don't know what temperatures are achieved in a pressure cooker - well over 100 degrees C, of course. You'd have to be unlucky - your example and generations of stock pot cooking show that - but if you WERE unlucky, you and your nearest and dearest stand a chance of being dead in a rather nasty fashion, without much chance of successful treatment. Repeated cooling and reheating food is never really a good idea, and would certainly get a restaurant closed down by environmental health officials.
 
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