Solent mobos

Wash is just little waves, which are something I generally expect to encounter when sailing. Natural or mobo made, all they do is rock the boat. I'm not sure what the big deal is.
 
Simondjuk said:
Wash is just little waves, which are something I generally expect to encounter when sailing. Natural or mobo made, all they do is rock the boat. I'm not sure what the big deal is.
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Have to say I agree, at sea. A big wake through moorings is rather different, but I don't think I've ever encountered that. At sea, if I'm not prepared for a wave to come along then more fool me.

We used to love "washers" as kids :)

Pete
 
I like meeting a bit of a wave in the dinghy...always did - made me feel I was at sea when I was far up the Bosham Channel as a kid.

Although...nowadays, encountering a really steep wave with a curling top and a sudden drop into the trough, makes me worry for my 40 y/o hull and rig.
 
One of the Hayling lifeboat crew who came to my aid yesterday was...a Jetski pervert ! On hearing this I motioned as if to clock him...

Goes to show one can't rely on stereotypes as he was a thoroughly good bloke, however it's always worth having a bazooka / Exocet up one's sleeve... :)
 
Simondjuk said:
Wash is just little waves, which are something I generally expect to encounter when sailing. Natural or mobo made, all they do is rock the boat. I'm not sure what the big deal is.
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when a sizeable mobo digging a big hole passes near, it's not just little waves. Wash amplitude and wavelength is unlike any other type of wave. We have to hold on for wash, in a way that we don't have to hold on for any other wave.
 
Keen_Ed said:
when a sizeable mobo digging a big hole passes near, it's not just little waves. Wash amplitude and wavelength is unlike any other type of wave. We have to hold on for wash, in a way that we don't have to hold on for any other wave.
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Suggest you never go anywhere near the ledge off Hengistbury Head, then!
The gentle sound of waterfalls as the standing wave gathers around you is something I don't want to hear again in a hurry.
 
Keen_Ed said:
when a sizeable mobo digging a big hole passes near, it's not just little waves. Wash amplitude and wavelength is unlike any other type of wave. We have to hold on for wash, in a way that we don't have to hold on for any other wave.
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So it's a more rapid motion. It's there and gone in a moment and doesn't spoil my mood half as much as hours and days of feeble wind, a lazy swell and slatting sails can on occasion, and I willingly inflict that upon myself. In my world, it's simply not worth getting angry and uptight about.
 
I s'pose it's a question of where you are and what you're doing. A big unnatural wave on a flat calm day when you've carefully induced artificial heel and are just about making way upwind, is definitely a pain. The same wake from behind, on a day when you're almost planing, and there's suddenly a bit of surf action, is quite welcome.

Although, if I'm almost planing, probably I'll outrun the wake. :rolleyes:
 
OK, as a wake maker (part time), here are my rules.

So, in order of protection status.

No wake, ever. Slow to 4 if neccessary. (biggest culprits in my opinion are RIBs and yachties in the RAF launch on the hamble ignoring the carnage caused by their chauffeur)
People up masts. People boarding from dinghy. People hanging off to clean boat etc. People filling with fuel.

Give very wide berth or slow (right) down. Boats at anchor or yachts downwind, particularly with spinnakers up, yachts with people doing foredeck work. The smoother the sea the more this rule applies.

Give lots of space where possible (it sometimes isn't near the mouth of the hamble for example) Everyone else.

But never any wake, ever?
It is not possible to never effect any other boat with wake. That is unless I never go above 6 knots and I go above 6 knots about 1/3 - 1/2 of the time.

Raggie talaban will say that's how I should behave, but if I am constrained like that it is you that is effecting my hobby by being there. I won't accept that sorry. If you are of the mind to complain about waves on the sea, then it is you that is spoiling your day, not me!

I like to think though that I wouldn't behave like any of the boats in Dylan's vid.
 
Elessar said:
OK, as a wake maker (part time), here are my rules.

So, in order of protection status.

No wake, ever. Slow to 4 if neccessary. (biggest culprits in my opinion are RIBs and yachties in the RAF launch on the hamble ignoring the carnage caused by their chauffeur)
People up masts. People boarding from dinghy. People hanging off to clean boat etc. People filling with fuel.

Give very wide berth or slow (right) down. Boats at anchor or yachts downwind, particularly with spinnakers up, yachts with people doing foredeck work. The smoother the sea the more this rule applies.

Give lots of space where possible (it sometimes isn't near the mouth of the hamble for example) Everyone else.

But never any wake, ever?
It is not possible to never effect any other boat with wake. That is unless I never go above 6 knots and I go above 6 knots about 1/3 - 1/2 of the time.

Raggie talaban will say that's how I should behave, but if I am constrained like that it is you that is effecting my hobby by being there. I won't accept that sorry. If you are of the mind to complain about waves on the sea, then it is you that is spoiling your day, not me!

I like to think though that I wouldn't behave like any of the boats in Dylan's vid.
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Fair play Elessar for being considerate to us yachties . it's the yacht Taliban that cause the problem who have no consideration for MOBOs .Live and let live on both sides .
 
Interesting reversal! I suppose protests and restrictions on noisy automotive exhaust-pipes were seen by culprits as an undemocratic reduction in petrolheads' fun on the road.
 
Sadly not just mobos (altho they have a habit of doing it in Chichester Hbr) - last weekend had a sloop overtake us on our port side, then cut across our bow leaving a 15ft gap. Proving a point as they were sailing and we were motorsailing? Maybe. Given there was no-one around (and he could easily have taken our stern), it was quite a d*ck move. I really must invest in another slingshot....
 
ausnp84 said:
last weekend had a sloop overtake us on our port side, then cut across our bow leaving a 15ft gap. Proving a point as they were sailing and we were motorsailing? Maybe. Given there was no-one around (and he could easily have taken our stern), it was quite a d*ck move.
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Possibly he was a racer, among whom a 15' gap is more than generous, and he genuinely thought he was leaving you plenty of room?

Pete
 
prv said:
Possibly he was a racer, among whom a 15' gap is more than generous, and he genuinely thought he was leaving you plenty of room?

Pete
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Maybe, but entirely un-necessary. We're 45ft, he was mid 30's and having cleared the forts, there were no boats in our vicinity. Reminded me of the ignorance often displayed by our mobo chums....

nathan
 
Has anybody kept a tally of the number of great divide threads started by DW? Ive lost count.
Its all in the mind Dylan. I have a mobo which I cruise habitually at around 7knots and am probably physically affected by wash more than you as I don't have a massive keel. I agree some boats do show a lack of consideration, but at the end of the day its a wave, a very small wave, a very very small wave. A bit like being at sea really. Get over it. (the wave that is)
 
blueglass said:
It's all in the mind...it's a wave, a very small wave, a very very small wave.
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Isn't the noise of speeding motorboats a greater cause of dislike? The wash may be perceived as the objectionable consequence of their presence, but if a small ship goes past quite close, making just a low-frequency thrum and curling up a similar wake, I reckon lots of yachtsmen just accept the movement and almost enjoy the motion.
 
ausnp84 said:
Sadly not just mobos (altho they have a habit of doing it in Chichester Hbr) - last weekend had a sloop overtake us on our port side, then cut across our bow leaving a 15ft gap. Proving a point as they were sailing and we were motorsailing? Maybe. Given there was no-one around (and he could easily have taken our stern), it was quite a d*ck move. I really must invest in another slingshot....
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That's an interesting situation.

I'm amazed by the lack of room given to sailing yachts by other yachtsmen when under power.

We were beating up the river Crouch in a solid F6 and several members of our yacht club motored across our bows (engine trouble or I'd have joined them...) forcing us to duck them. We missed them by inches deliberately to keep as much height as possible.

I'd expect a yacht under power to give a bit of room especially as he presumably has some idea how sailing boats work.
 
xyachtdave said:
That's an interesting situation.

I'm amazed by the lack of room given to sailing yachts by other yachtsmen when under power.

We were beating up the river Crouch in a solid F6 and several members of our yacht club motored across our bows (engine trouble or I'd have joined them...) forcing us to duck them. We missed them by inches deliberately to keep as much height as possible.

I'd expect a yacht under power to give a bit of room especially as he presumably has some idea how sailing boats work.
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An expectation based upon a presumption is a dangerous thing - especially as exactly 50% of all boat users are below average ability/understanding.
 
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