So many boats heading for the Caribbean

Do all these boats just stay there? Or wait for their demise in a hurricane or are they all transported back by ship? If someone was to do an Atlantic circuit what is the typical time frame? Or sell the boat here and buy one there?
 
Do all these boats just stay there? Or wait for their demise in a hurricane or are they all transported back by ship? If someone was to do an Atlantic circuit what is the typical time frame? Or sell the boat here and buy one there?
Generally, boats sail down to the Canaries any time during the summer up to late autumn, early winter. Most leave end of November to early December when post hurricane season insurance window opens. There are always exceptions, but this is fairly standard. Gives the most time in the Caribbean for those staying for one season.

March is a typical month for those heading for the Panama Canal and onwards through the Pacific.

From what I've seen...and done :cool: lots of boats head back to Europe, often via the Azores, anytime from late April until we'll into June.

This is a big generalisation, some stay in the Windies for years, heading south for hurricane season.
 
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Interesting to hear how busy it’s getting this year. I’ve noticed a lot more movement on Marine Traffic too, feels like everyone’s heading west lately.
 
Generally, boats sail down to the Canaries any time during the summer up to late autumn, early winter. Most leave end of November to early December when post hurricane season insurance window opens. There are always exceptions, but this is fairly standard. Gives the most time in the Caribbean for those staying for one season.

March is a typical month for those heading for the Panama Canal and onwards through the Pacific.

From what I've seen...and done :cool: lots of boats head back to Europe, often via the Azores, anytime from late April until we'll into June.

This is a big generalisation, some stay in the Windies for years, heading south for hurricane season.
We are on route at the moment. 700nm west of the Cape Verdes. It's windy. High 20s gusting 30kts. This is supposed to be the quite time of year to cross. Pre trades. Bot this year. They are blowing full on
 
Generally, boats sail down to the Canaries any time during the summer up to late autumn, early winter. Most leave end of November to early December when post hurricane season insurance window opens. There are always exceptions, but this is fairly standard. Gives the most time in the Caribbean for those staying for one season.

March is a typical month for those heading for the Panama Canal and onwards through the Pacific.

From what I've seen...and done :cool: lots of boats head back to Europe, often via the Azores, anytime from late April until we'll into June.

This is a big generalisation, some stay in the Windies for years, heading south for hurricane season.
Thanks so an Atlantic circuit could be done quite quickly……… Um trying to decide what sailing to do with the sailing seasons left to me. Azores and back next year or carry on……. Will have to make a decision and tell the family at some point……. 😀 Have to factor in trips home to get medication (insulin)….
 
Do all these boats just stay there? Or wait for their demise in a hurricane...
The hurricane season in my opinion provides the best conditions for sailing in the Carribbean, though that does of course assume that you avoid the hurricanes themselves. With modern on-line weather forecasts, provided that you are aboard and your vessel's in commission, that's not especially difficult. Hurricane strength winds are localised, so when you hear that one's on its way, if it's heading in your general direction, sail to somewhere else, that's at least 50 and preferably >100 miles from the hurricane's predicted track and given a choice, aim to get south of it.
 
Thanks so an Atlantic circuit could be done quite quickly……… Um trying to decide what sailing to do with the sailing seasons left to me. Azores and back next year or carry on……. Will have to make a decision and tell the family at some point……. 😀 Have to factor in trips home to get medication (insulin)….
It could be done in a year but you wouldn't get much time for sightseeing.
I recommend The Atlantic Sailor's Handbook by Alastair Buchan, it's very readable and not as daunting as the likes of Jimmy Cornell's tomes. He sets out a really useful table which shows where you need to be and when.
 
The hurricane season in my opinion provides the best conditions for sailing in the Carribbean, though that does of course assume that you avoid the hurricanes themselves. With modern on-line weather forecasts, provided that you are aboard and your vessel's in commission, that's not especially difficult. Hurricane strength winds are localised, so when you hear that one's on its way, if it's heading in your general direction, sail to somewhere else, that's at least 50 and preferably >100 miles from the hurricane's predicted track and given a choice, aim to get south of it.
Interesting.
We spent one hurricane season in Grenada and popped up in to the Grenadines a couple of times. It was lovely and quiet, and we got to anchor in some beautiful windward anchorages which were untenable in the main trade winds season. But you had to watch for tropical waves coming in, as well as calms, and unusual wind directions. I would say that it's much easier to sail there in the winter.
 
Interesting.
We spent one hurricane season in Grenada and popped up in to the Grenadines a couple of times. It was lovely and quiet, and we got to anchor in some beautiful windward anchorages which were untenable in the main trade winds season. But you had to watch for tropical waves coming in, as well as calms, and unusual wind directions. I would say that it's much easier to sail there in the winter.
We stayed In Antigua until July then cruised down to the Grenadines. We spent the rest of the summer in Grenada and the Grenadines.
Peak charter season in Martinique is August. It coincided with French holiday season. They don't seem to mind that it's hurricane season😅
 
Be very careful. I spent some years on Canouan in the Grenadines believing I could weather watch and move (most likely south) to avoid any hurricane. Then up sprung Thomas (was it 2005) really fast! NOAA gave such a wide forecast of predicted paths that I was left deciding between going to sea unsure of it's direction or stay put in an unsuitable anchorage. There was very little time to act. I put the wife and kids ashore in a hotel. Set every anchor. Sunk the dingy and reduced windage by bringing everything movable including all sails below. I stayed on board. The storm passed just north of St Vincent the mainland but still I was subjected to crazy dangerous conditions. I could easily have lost the boat or my life or both.
 
Be very careful. I spent some years on Canouan in the Grenadines believing I could weather watch and move (most likely south) to avoid any hurricane. Then up sprung Thomas (was it 2005) really fast! NOAA gave such a wide forecast of predicted paths that I was left deciding between going to sea unsure of it's direction or stay put in an unsuitable anchorage. There was very little time to act. I put the wife and kids ashore in a hotel. Set every anchor. Sunk the dingy and reduced windage by bringing everything movable including all sails below. I stayed on board. The storm passed just north of St Vincent the mainland but still I was subjected to crazy dangerous conditions. I could easily have lost the boat or my life or both.
A very cautionarytale
 
Be very careful. I spent some years on Canouan in the Grenadines believing I could weather watch and move (most likely south) to avoid any hurricane. Then up sprung Thomas (was it 2005) really fast! NOAA gave such a wide forecast of predicted paths that I was left deciding between going to sea unsure of it's direction or stay put in an unsuitable anchorage. There was very little time to act. I put the wife and kids ashore in a hotel. Set every anchor. Sunk the dingy and reduced windage by bringing everything movable including all sails below. I stayed on board. The storm passed just north of St Vincent the mainland but still I was subjected to crazy dangerous conditions. I could easily have lost the boat or my life or both.
Thanks for sharing.
This was before the fancy marina was built, I presume?

Having lost one boat to a hurricane already, I don't take these things lightly.

If you're going to go up island in the summer, you'd better be ready to move at the drop of a hat.

We had some major work to do on our boat, including a mast-off re-rig, which is why we ended up deciding to go up to the US for the summer, instead of e.g. Martinique.
 
I think that the weather forecasts are infinitely better now compared to 20 years ago - and it is amazing really how accurate the predictions generally are.
A pal of mine was here on his cat for the summer a few years ago - a hurricane was heading our way and he simply sailed south about 50 miles and hove to until the hurricane had passed, and then sailed back again.
If it had veered more south, he would have carried on heading further south.
 
An Atlantic circuit can be done in a year relatively easily, without being too much of a rush. I planned on this, yet, circumstances changed. Namely, the death of my mother. After flying home, to sort things out, we stayed away for two years.
 
I think that the weather forecasts are infinitely better now compared to 20 years ago
More importantly in the context of Mike’s post you’re no longer “going to sea unsure of it's direction” you’d be going to sea with the ability to stay abreast of updates as they come. Even in 2005 the ability to get quality updates was limited once away from land. Now I imagine most boats either have Starlink or are within VHF range of people who do.
Between the additional advanced notice and ability to stay updated I imagine the terror level is much lower than it was. Not to the point of comfort but better nonetheless
 
More importantly in the context of Mike’s post you’re no longer “going to sea unsure of it's direction” you’d be going to sea with the ability to stay abreast of updates as they come. Even in 2005 the ability to get quality updates was limited once away from land. Now I imagine most boats either have Starlink or are within VHF range of people who do.
Between the additional advanced notice and ability to stay updated I imagine the terror level is much lower than it was. Not to the point of comfort but better nonetheless
From what I've seen around the Canarian marinas with boats preparing, few have starlink. The chances of being anywhere near vhf range of anything over weeks is slim.

However, there are alternatives such as Iridium Go, etc that can be very helpful.
 
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