Showing Thames licence

[jecuk]

So chaps, now we have to print our own licence fee doc, how do people attach it to the windscreen?

 

[DWT]

I bought some permit holders online. There were two in a packet for £2.29. Just make sure they are the right size because some of the ones which came up were a bit too small.

 

[Chris_d]

Have to admit we haven't bothered to display it, nobody seems to have noticed or care.

 

[Northern Star]

I still had some of their sticky display things from my old tender so using them for the moment.

 

[Bran]

Fortunately I have a laminator so I I pop them into a sleeve, laminate then stick it in the window with some tape.

 

[Chris_d]

So for 100's we have to print if out ourselves assuming you have a printer, on paper that will probably fade after a week in the sun, and devise some way of sticking it on, blu tack, tape, etc...
Personnely if the EA can't be bothered neither can I. I've paid the money so no need to prove it with a crappy piece of paper.

 

[Bran]

So for 100's we have to print if out ourselves assuming you have a printer, on paper that will probably fade after a week in the sun, and devise some way of sticking it on, blu tack, tape, etc...
Personnely if the EA can't be bothered neither can I. I've paid the money so no need to prove it with a crappy piece of paper.

I’m at a lock now, hire boat going through still showing a 21 plate!

 

[Mark26]

I printed a spare one last year in case mine faded, but it didn’t.
I put mine in a food bag and attached it to the inside of the window with masking tape.
Not elegant, but it stayed put.

 

[Outinthedinghy]

I don't have a printer.

Registration kept on phone to show to any keeper who wants to see it.

I think it disgraceful that the tickets are not printed like they used to be, with EA hologram and year colour.

You do get a hologram on a visitor license but not on a full year any more.

I remember the days vaguely when these things were enamelled steel badges. Then they were plastic. Then they were paper. Now it's the phone innit.

 

[Time Out]

So chaps, now we have to print our own licence fee doc, how do people attach it to the windscreen?

I purchased a boat where the owner had collected 59 years of unused plastic stickers!

Print it off and put it on. I now get moaned at if I stand in front of it …

 

[Outinthedinghy]

Also it is not a licence. It is a registration.

The Thames is a PRN (Public Right of Navigation) waterway which no body can licence the use of by the public. It is not a permission based use it is a rights based use. Yes you do need to be registered but that is not the same as licensing.

That's why they are called registration plates.

 

[Momac]

C&RT stopped sending the 'discs' (which are square) by post a few years ago.
C&RT incorrectly retain the use of the word license , rather than registration, including the ''rivers only license'' which I have.
I don't bother to display the 'discs' the last few years and have not been challenged. I don't see the point as like a tax disc on a car it should no longer be required. However I will print up a paper copy when the opportunity arises in case a jobsworth turns up.

 

[oldgit]

and the last time anybody had a Tax disc in their car was ?

 

[Outinthedinghy]

C&RT stopped sending the 'discs' (which are square) by post a few years ago.
C&RT incorrectly retain the use of the word license , rather than registration, including the ''rivers only license'' which I have.
I don't bother to display the 'discs' the last few years and have not been challenged. I don't see the point as like a tax disc on a car it should no longer be required. However I will print up a paper copy when the opportunity arises in case a jobsworth turns up.

On CRT waterways there are two situations.

One is a canal licence which is a licence in the sense that the navigation authority is allowed to licence your use of the waterways.
This is a PBL. pleasure boat licence.

There is no Public Right of Navigation on canals.

On the other hand there is the incorrectly described "rivers only licence" (which I also have for one of my boats) which is in fact a registration certificate and not a licence.
This is a PBC. A pleasure boat certificate.

There are some people who believe that CRT, by calling it a "rivers only licence" are attempting to extinguish the long standing PRN on river waterways under their management.

Interesting topic.


A fairly obvious difference between cars and boats is that the roads are completely covered by endless cameras and also you will get the occasional marked police car and endless numbers of unmarked police cars.

So basically if you are untaxed you will get spotted.

Fortunately (thus far) the River is not covered by vast numbers of cameras and patrol vehicles.

So in a way it makes sense to display the registration plates but only if you get then sent in the post.

Otherwise anyone could forge it too easily.

 

[Northern Star]

I was quite amazed that mine didn't fade last year and I just use the cheap ink on my Canon printer.

 

[Scapegoat]

I requested a printed licence with the application. It didn’t come but an email chaser worked. Figured they should do something for the money

 

[The Q]

The Broads Authority gave up on tax discs when one year they bought a batch who's ink ran at the sight of dampness. They were previously stuck on the bows of the boat by the registration number. Now they don't send discs, the river inspectors have a tablet computer / phone with all the registration numbers on and who's paid..
Which reminds me I need to put the number on the outside of the cover on the sailing boat..

 

[Scapegoat]

The Broads Authority gave up on tax discs when one year they bought a batch who's ink ran at the sight of dampness. They were previously stuck on the bows of the boat by the registration number. Now they don't send discs, the river inspectors have a tablet computer / phone with all the registration numbers on and who's paid..
Which reminds me I need to put the number on the outside of the cover on the sailing boat..

That works fine if there is an identifying registration number or name clearly displayed on the exterior of the boat.
Not so much the case on the Thames these days

 

[The Q]

The Broads Authority are very strict on showing registration marks, which has caused some battles when they wanted modern plastic official sized labels. (They're stick on) when some traditional motorcraft had them in Big chrome plated signs on the cabin sides..
Also the BA's advice on placement and where to put them contradicts what it says on the the Bylaws..

So that leads to the advice to put on on the stern and one on each side within 2 metres of the bow..
So where do you put the stern one on a dinghy with an open Stern?
and in an Oppie that means they can be 3/4 the way back from the bow to the stern..
oh and if your dinghy has a boat cover hiding the numbers they have to be on the Cover as well..

 

[Outinthedinghy]

It's names on the Thames.

Obviously boats do technically have a registration number on the yearly payment thing but there is no requirement to display this conspicuously.

There is a requirement to display the craft name and the number after it if someone else has previously used the name (or if you have a break in the registration and they can't join the dots).

It would be better if it was just a number really from a management point of view but also quite nice that the River is still a bit old fashioned.

I had hundreds of old enamelled steel reg plates out with the magnet when I was a mad man in a dinghy with a ridiculously large magnet years ago and they did make a point of displaying numbers. There were a few with boat names but most had numbers.
These days it's just names.